For Sale forum access

Is it too much trouble for you guys to add a mandatory number of posts (50?) before you can post to the for sale forum? This will elimiate some of the scammers...

Are there really that many scammers on here? I've never noticed any until you mentioned it, then I saw one.

Elenor would hit that minimum in one thread!!!

50 might be a bit much. I've been on MP since July of 2010 and have bought/sold quite a few things, but I don't think I've even come close to posting 50 times. Number of posts isn't going to change the fact that someone's going to scam on here.

Robert Buswold wrote:50 might be a bit much. I've been on MP since July of 2010 and have bought/sold quite a few things, but I don't think I've even come close to posting 50 times. Number of posts isn't going to change the fact that someone's going to scam on here.

I disagree, I'm on a number of other forums and it's usually very obvious when someone is only posting to meet the minimum requirement to sell something. The exception would be elanor who needed to be banned anyways.

I don't think there are a lot of scammers here (yet) but as climbing becomes more popular there will be.. and if you're the one being scammed 1 scammer is all that matters.

I don't think it would hold back the scammers and only be a pain for legit people who don't serial post.

Whenever there appears to be an occurrence of misconduct, people clamor for more restrictions.

Scott McMahon wrote:Elenor would hit that minimum in one thread!!!

Shhhhhhh..... Let sleeping dogs lie.

I have bought and sold stuff here. All of the transactions have gone well. I like the "for sale" forum a lot, and do not perceive that there are currently a lot of scammers lurking there.

Although I understand and appreciate what NickinCO wants to do, I don't think that it will eliminate the occasional scammer. I don't necessarily have a problem with folks coming here just to buy / sell stuff. I don't want to drive them away. I like having more merchandise available at cheap prices. As long as the represent their goods correctly and are ethical in their transactions, I am all for them posting here. I also like the fact that since this is a community forum, if you have a bad experience you can bring it to the attention of the community. I think that the 50 post minimum (or whatever number is appropriate) will just serve to reduce the number of goods that are available for purchase.

NickinCO wrote:Is it too much trouble for you guys to add a mandatory number of posts (50?) before you can post to the for sale forum? This will elimiate some of the scammers...

Would it be too much trouble for you to simply take 10 seconds to look at a seller's post history?

This is just one more example of the mp masses wanting this site to wipe their asses and hold their hands through everything. Take some responsibility for yourself.

camhead wrote: Would it be too much trouble for you to simply take 10 seconds to look at a seller's post history? This is just one more example of the mp masses wanting this site to wipe their asses and hold their hands through everything. Take some responsibility for yourself.

Right. Matter of fact I'm about to go drop a huge one... probably the highlight of my day. Care to come over with some double-ply? My employer is cheap...

You're obviously a genius and I wish I would have thought of that, but what if they have no post history? Which is the basis of this thread..

It was just a suggestion, what I thought this area was for. In other forums I've found it to create more of a "community" with less outsiders coming to unload there crap. I am not a dirtbag though and prefer to buy most of my gear new, so maybe that isn't appealing. I bet you aren't a prick in real life, why do you play one on the intraweb?

NC Rock Climber wrote:I have bought and sold stuff here. All of the transactions have gone well. I like the "for sale" forum a lot, and do not perceive that there are currently a lot of scammers lurking there. Although I understand and appreciate what NickinCO wants to do, I don't think that it will eliminate the occasional scammer. I don't necessarily have a problem with folks coming here just to buy / sell stuff. I don't want to drive them away. I like having more merchandise available at cheap prices. As long as the represent their goods correctly and are ethical in their transactions, I am all for them posting here. I also like the fact that since this is a community forum, if you have a bad experience you can bring it to the attention of the community. I think that the 50 post minimum (or whatever number is appropriate) will just serve to reduce the number of goods that are available for purchase.

You're right it would drive away a lot of sellers. If everyone represented themselve truthfully, you're right there would be no need... if only the world were perfect. If you oust someone whose sole purpose was to come here and sell gear in a deceitful manner it doesn't really do any good. Like I said maybe limiting the gear (quality over quantity) for sale isn't appealing to the masses.

Is it just me or has there been a major uptick in the sheer quantity of for sale posts lately? I know, I can just use the "Hide For Sale Posts" but I like to keep them there just in case there is something I want. Lately it seems there are almost more FS posts than anything else. Having a reasonable post minimum is worth considering IMO.

Hmmm... hard to imagine who would.... Whatevs, have fun keeping this all on track, ya hard on.

Adam Stackhouse wrote:Whenever there appears to be an occurrence of misconduct, people clamor for more restrictions.

Yeah, get ready for the MP Patriot Act.

Colonel Mustard wrote:Hmmm... hard to imagine who would.... Whatevs, have fun keeping this all on track, ya hard on.

Resorting to name calling now... sweet brah. You could have just ignored this.

Wade J. wrote: Yeah, get ready for the MP Patriot Act.

Not if I have anything to do with it!!!

NickinCO wrote: Resorting to name calling now... sweet brah. You could have just ignored this.

Yes, Nick, I have resorted to it. It's just horrible, reflexively resorting to the "h" word at the flexing of the merest of authority figures. Way to follow your own advice, btw ;).

My super duper serious suggestion for y'all is to just ignore the for sale people who you think our scammers the way most of the site ignores the sale hounds and has to put up with a bunch of "for sale" postings on the front page (I know, I know - only if we aren't smart enough to "hide" them).

NickinCO wrote: ...You're obviously a genius and I wish I would have thought of that, but what if they have no post history?

Mr. Genius says... if they have no post history, be wary of buying from them! Next question?

NickinCO wrote:I bet you aren't a prick in real life, why do you play one on the intraweb?

Because if I didn't play a prick on the intardtubes, I would risk being one in real life. It's a no-brainer.

Tony B wrote: Shhhhhhh..... Let sleeping dogs lie.

has been a little quiet lately, eh?

I am part of some other forums as well. In some of those cases you may not post to certain forum sections for a said period of time. Often just a few days. Another option that has its Pro's and Con's as well.

In one forum I take part in, you may not sell unless your a supporting member of the site, which means a $20 dues fee (i believe just one time). Keeps sellers legit for sure.