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Father and Son 

YDS: 5.7 French: 5a Ewbanks: 15 UIAA: V+ ZA: 13 British: MVS 4b

Type:  Trad, 50'
Consensus:  YDS: 5.7 French: 5a Ewbanks: 15 UIAA: V+ ZA: 13 British: MVS 4b [details]
FA: John Bronaugh, Alex Yeakley, Miguel and Dario Ventura
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Submitted By: Chris Chaney on Oct 12, 2006

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Me leading up Father and Son 5.7


Stem and layback the obtuse dihedral to an awkward mantel onto the sloping ledge


When the approach trail nears the wall, bear left and scramble up a slipper slope to a talus ledge on the main corner.

Father and Son is the obtuse dihedral just left of the main corner.


TCUs, smaller cams up to hand sized
Rappel anchors on the ledge

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Jeremy Townsend top roping Father and Son in the s...
Jeremy Townsend top roping Father and Son in the s...
Con starting Father and Son
Con starting Father and Son
The route.
The route.

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By Tony B
From: Around Boulder, CO
Jul 7, 2008

I know that John named this route at least in part due to having taken Miguel and Dario on it together, but I always wondered if there was connection to the Cat Stevens song by this title as well.
By NickinCO
From: colorado
May 23, 2011
rating: 5.7 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b

great lead with stoppers only.
By Jeff Christbaum
From: Muskego, WI
May 1, 2012
rating: 5.7 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b

A fun climb with plenty of lay-back action. Primary pro were cams.
By Casey the "Renaissance Man"
Jul 11, 2012

Great intro lead. Running it with just stoppers is fun too.
By Dreez
Jun 16, 2014

Approach: There are iron re-bar foot ladders to step up about 6 feet. On your right about 100 feet is father and sons.

great easy no brainer no panic great gear great feet climb
By polloloco
From: Diamond Bar, CA
Sep 17, 2014
rating: 5.7 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b

My first trad lead. Great placements and stances! Had plenty of passive placement opportunities.
By Michael Mahoney
From: Gillette, WY
Oct 8, 2014

I needed small cams to lead this. Fun climb that I wish was longer!
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