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Jan 13, 2014
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I've never waited in a line or dealt with crowds while cragging at Jtree or Red rocks or Yosemite. I dont like crowds either so I suspect you may like to talk about things without a strong knowledge to back up your claims which I find to be somewhat relevant in all of your ethics postings. We all like to spray though, right Killis? T Roper
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Pano of Choas in the P2 crux. Undercling-high-step...
MJMobes wrote:
I've never waited in a line or dealt with crowds while cragging at Jtree or Red rocks or Yosemite. I dont like crowds either so I suspect you may like to talk about things without a strong knowledge to back up your claims which I find to be somewhat relevant in all of your ethics postings. We all like to spray though, right Killis?


So tourists aren't a problem in the valley? Ever try to get on a trade rotue in RR, say Birdland, CC, DOWT, Solar Slab? How about any moderate in HVC? Maybe your just lucky or maybe your denial of such claims is your self serving bias. I like how you don't refute that Yosemite has been contemplating a permit system. Just think about how long someone has to reserve a camp site in advance to know that it is a crowded place. Don't forget, me saying that Yosemite is crowded is my opinion. My tolerance for people is most likely different than yours. It doesn't mean I am wrong, just that we have a difference of opinions. I have had way too many close calls on trade routes in RR with people dropping things above me or just poor consideration of others.

What have I talked about without a strong knowledge to back up my claims, especially in regards to local history/tradition? My post history is listed. I'd be glad to back any of it up with facts. I typically keep don't speak in regards to things that I don't have personal experience or knowledge of some part of the history. Just like you should when it comes to tradition and history in NC. So why is it that you are posting in a thread regarding NC history/ethics when you have never climbed here. Considering your last post, you sound like a hypocrite.
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