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Apr 9, 2012
Paria Canyon, UT, Petroglyph
Going there 3rd week April. Is there any access issue?

Lin in Boulder
lin murphy
From boulder
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Apr 10, 2012
Cobra Kai
If you are able to use the quicker access road in; do not drive on the road after sunset. If you arrive after dark, camp somewhere else for the night and drive in, in the morning. Red
From Arizona
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Apr 11, 2012
"Driftwood" direct V6/7. Also known as t...
If you get there after dark, camp at Datil Well. It's cheap ($5?) and decent camping. The ranchers are disturbed by people driving in after dark, so you don't want to do that because:
1) You'll be an asshole to the ranchers, who are responsible for the direct easement road, and
2) The disgruntled ranchers will lock the gate, in which case you'll also be an asshole to those of us climbers who are trying to do the right thing.
By the way, please do NOT park on the ranchers' property. They use the turnaround that may look to city folk like a good place to leave their Prius so it doesn't get dirty or dented on the rocky road past the gate.
Dave Wachter
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Apr 13, 2012
It is pretty easy to find this info out if you just click on the access information link on the Tower's page. It's open for the time being. Brototype
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May 23, 2012
Belay
Wow, I'm glad I checked this thread. I wanted to come check it out over the holiday weekend.

Is it too hot to climb there in the middle of summer?
Peter Franzen
From Phoenix, AZ
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May 23, 2012
In the traverse section, double rainbow in the bac...
Peter Franzen wrote:
Wow, I'm glad I checked this thread. I wanted to come check it out over the holiday weekend. Is it too hot to climb there in the middle of summer?

By no means. Last time I was there we got hailed on in July.
Alex McIntyre
From Tucson, AZ
Joined Jan 14, 2011
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May 23, 2012
Photo by Aaron Lavinsky
Can anyone tell me the condition of the 4WD road? Would a 4WD Suburu make it back there? What about a Tacoma with rear differentials? Any beta would be appreciated. RyanJames
Joined Feb 23, 2010
611 points
May 24, 2012
Bump on Davenport road access. Anybody been in that road this year? I'd appreciate an update on road conditions. ryandb
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May 24, 2012
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Thanks for the info... I always pack out the crap, too. The Hill of Crap is pretty darn disgusting. RyanJames
Joined Feb 23, 2010
611 points
May 25, 2012
David Sahalie wrote:
... and pack out your crap.


We leave it for you to stir up David! Haha.
1Eric Rhicard
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The 4x4 road was in good shape for a truck as of Memorial Day weekend, but only a VERY intrepid Subaru driver would use it. The smoke from the major fire in the Gila Wilderness was so bad that the sun was red and people who hadn't been out of the camp site in a few days were worried that the fire might be close by. It was bad enough to probably really bother people with allergies. It cleared up whenever the wind changed. As for the trash and crap situation, it looked like people had been fairly responsible lately. Meghan
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Jun 1, 2012
Once we landed we headed to Font to find a place t...
Meghan wrote:
The 4x4 road was in good shape for a truck as of Memorial Day weekend, but only a VERY intrepid Subaru driver would use it. The smoke from the major fire in the Gila Wilderness was so bad that the sun was red and people who hadn't been out of the camp site in a few days were worried that the fire might be close by. It was bad enough to probably really bother people with allergies. It cleared up whenever the wind changed. As for the trash and crap situation, it looked like people had been fairly responsible lately.


Yeah, the smoke was heinous on Saturday, Sunday was great though. Our friend in a Toyota Highlander 2wd got stuck in a ditch on the side of the road on the way in. As for the crap situation...


Right at a Y junction in the trail leading away fr...
Right at a Y junction in the trail leading away from one of the camp spots, maybe 50 feet...nice.
LeeAB
From ABQ, NM
Joined Aug 3, 2008
10,131 points
Jun 1, 2012
A grey fox skull wedged in a crack 100' up on a FA...
Holy Shit! That's a tournament turd, was your lens set on macro? Nasty. Glenn Schuler
From Monument, Co.
Joined Jun 24, 2006
985 points
Jun 1, 2012
Bucky
Seriously, what the f*ck is wrong with people. That kinda thing totally justifies a burlap sack full of sweet valencia oranges.....doesn't leave a bruise and really gets the message across. J. Albers
From Colorado
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Jun 4, 2012
Once we landed we headed to Font to find a place t...
Glenn Schuler wrote:
Holy Shit! That's a tournament turd, was your lens set on macro? Nasty.

Glenn, I don't know about you, but I have no desire to get close enough to that to need a camera on macro, besides I don't know if my phone has it.
LeeAB
From ABQ, NM
Joined Aug 3, 2008
10,131 points
Jun 5, 2012
Hey we Arizonans are trying to re-vegetate an obviously degraded ecosystem! So, it really is nice. Maybe if you all spread a little more fertilizer there would only be one trail there.

Haha! I have made the cast, lets see who gets hooked.

Actually, the constant pooplaints made me realize that I learned how to deal with my poop from my mentors. Until they clued me in I did my stuff and covered it with pine needles or whatever. In this day and age of busy crags we need a way to get the out door etiquette message to all the folks that arrive with no clue and no one to help them.

Hmmmm. Think about how to do this and start a new solution thread where all pooplainers are banned and only solutions will be tolerated.

Thanks
1Eric Rhicard
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Jun 5, 2012
Cobra Kai
1Eric Rhicard wrote:
In this day and age of busy crags we need a way to get the out door etiquette message to all the folks that arrive with no clue and no one to help them. Hmmmm. Think about how to do this and start a new solution thread where all pooplainers are banned and only solutions will be tolerated. Thanks

I think every climbing gym should have a "How to Shit in the Outdoors" poster or pamphlet for newbies to take home. It should also be posted at any popular climbing area that has a kiosk.
Red
From Arizona
Joined Sep 11, 2008
1,358 points
Jun 5, 2012
Toofast
Totally nasty! UGH!!

It would be really nice for folks to inform newer/unknowing climbers on some guidelines for crap. I don't know if it would have made a difference in this case as it is so over the top that it looks deliberate.
Geir
From Tucson, AZ
Joined Jun 7, 2006
3,344 points
Jun 5, 2012
Final Pitch on Birdland - 5.7 Red Rocks
+1 to Red's commnet - Some of us here in AZ have tried to do different education events - at least three different Leave No Trace events that I know of to try and educate including classes and training - the Subaru Travelling trailers came to my climbphx.com events ect ect but no one cares. It's indicative of a society that is more concerned with personal cares and wants and less about the ecosystem ( human and otherwise) around them. Its a shame. We tried to promote the clean up at the McDowells recently and I was told " That's not a climbing spot - the rock sucks" and that was the excuse not to assist. Everyone else was too busy with climbing up north to get away from the heat.
Too many takers, not enough givers imho and its starting to show in more wild places.
ClimbPHX.com
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