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Jun 25, 2010
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Mike Lane wrote:
I can't see how 1.5 mm's of nylon will make a difference if you whip the rope over a sharp flake.

I'm not sure that I totally disagree with you, but just think that a 10.5mm rope has nearly 10 more millimeters of circumference than a 9mm and roughly 23 millimeters² of increased area. Barring my math and logic is correct, that's quite a bit more material to cut clear through. I'd agree with you completely if we were talking flat, relatively 2-D webbing.

Again, no disrespect to the fallen climber. My heart goes out to the friends and family.
Derek W
Joined Jun 27, 2008
38 points
Jun 25, 2010
moved: rope edge & diameter comments

Condolences to the family and friends of the climber. Unfortunate, no matter what the exact details of the accident are. Peace be with him and you.
Casey Bernal
From Arvada, CO
Joined Jan 20, 2006
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Jun 25, 2010
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I'll open a new topic on this.

Edge Testing Standardization for Ropes
Buff Johnson
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Jun 25, 2010
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Condolences to the family, and friends of Joseph. Having lost a best friend, and climbing partner so full of life (as Joseph sounds like he was) in a tragic climbing accident a few short years ago, I truly know the pain runs long, and deep. May you find peace. Dirty Gri Gri, or is it GiGi?
From Vegas
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Jun 26, 2010
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As many of you know, Rocky Mountain Rescue Group (RMRG) conducts investigations of most of the accidents (climbing or otherwise) that result in mountain rescues in Boulder County. We do this to assist law enforcement and the coroner in fulfilling their duties to investigate, to gather information for friends and family, and to provide information and education to the public. Often there is only short window after a rescue in which to gather information and we sometimes request that an area is closed for this short time period. At this time Yellow Spur has been re-opened as we have concluded gathering information from the scene after the accident of June 22nd.

RMRG appreciates your patience while we go through the process of analyzing the data gathered, preparing an accurate report, and working with the necessary authorities and family. We strive to provide information to the public as quickly as possible, but must balance this with compassion for victimsÂ’ family and friends, the timetable of law enforcement and coroner investigations, and the time available to our volunteers who are often responding to missions. Once the proper steps have been taken RMRG may publish a report on our website (www.RockyMountainRescue.org) and post a link on this forum.

We encourage anyone who has first hand information that may assist RMRG in evaluating any accident to contact us at contact@RockyMountainRescue.org. Likewise, thanks to everyone on this and past investigations who has allowed RMRG to ask seemingly endless and inconsequential questions after terrible ordeals.

Kelly Lucy, Group Leader
Rocky Mountain Rescue Group
Rocky Mountain Rescue Group
From Boulder, CO
Joined Jul 26, 2007
5 points
Jun 27, 2010
Kelly: Thank you for all the hard work that you and your colleagues at Rocky Mountain Rescue Group do. SAR teams, both paid & volunteers, are awesome. Jim Davidson
From Fort Collins, Colorado
Joined Nov 22, 2006
32 points
Jul 4, 2010
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May God guide and bless your rest Joseph. Condolences and prayers for his wife and family. Joseph Crotty
From Broomfield, CO
Joined Nov 23, 2002
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Jul 21, 2010
Was there ever any follow up info from the accident report about what happened here? Just curious about the facts, I've heard too many inconsistent stories from the rumor mill,

All the best to the families and friends involved,
Joined Aug 25, 2004
205 points
Jul 21, 2010
Hi - this is Lara Miller, Joe's wife (I am using his account). Tomorrow marks a month since his fall and death. I wanted to let you know that it has been wonderful to read all of the comments, condolences and support in this thread (unlike some of the comments in the DC). I, myself, am not part of the climbing community, only through Joe, so it was so sweet to see the camaraderie among fellow climbers.

There seem to have been lots of questions and speculation. Joe was leading the 2nd pitch of the Yellow Spur and had about 5 pieces (I am not sure of the number) of protection in when he fell and pulled only one piece and his rope was then cut across some part of rock and he fell about 80 feet to his death. The rope was not cut 3 feet from his harness, although I do not know the exact distance. He fall was never caught as the rope was cut before. The rope did not break, it was cut. The rope was fine before the cut. Joe was an amazingly safe climber. So safe that he irritated some that climbed with him. This is just one of those freak accidents that everyone fears. Other than not climbing that day, nothing could/should have been done differently. And yes, he did die doing what he loved and he loved it so much that I can't even imagine loosing him any other way.

We celebrated his beautiful life last Saturday and are working towards healing and finding our way. His climbing partner, who was with him, is close with our family and we plan to remain close and support each other.

Thanks you again for all of the kind words and wishes.

Love and Peace, Lara
joe miller
From Boulder, Colorado
Joined Apr 25, 2008
5 points
Jul 22, 2010
Lara - thanks for your post, and for the clarification. I am very sorry for your loss.

From Denver
Joined Apr 12, 2006
32 points
Sep 30, 2010
Just wondering if there was ever a full account of this accident that was published.
Having done this route numerous times I'm very curious as to how and where the rope was cut and if this was a guided ascent. I hope the family of the fallen climber are healing.
jack roberts
Joined Oct 30, 2002
62 points
Oct 1, 2010
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jack roberts wrote:
Just wondering if there was ever a full account of this accident that was published. Having done this route numerous times I'm very curious as to how and where the rope was cut and if this was a guided ascent. I hope the family of the fallen climber are healing.

Hey Jack, I actually emailed RMRG about it earlier this week and they stated that they are still finalizing the analysis on the accident. Unfortunately they've had a busy summer this year.
Erik W
From Boulder, CO
Joined Mar 8, 2007
313 points
Mar 8, 2011
RMRG has released the final report for this accident. Such a sad series of events.

Dan Lack
Joined Aug 13, 2010
0 points
Mar 8, 2011
Very detailed and inciteful accident analysis. Thank you RMRG.

Lara, I hope you and your family are well.

From Denver
Joined Apr 12, 2006
32 points

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