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Driving South 

YDS: 5.11d French: 7a Ewbanks: 24 UIAA: VIII ZA: 25 British: E5 6a

Type:  Trad, TR, 17'
Consensus:  YDS: 5.11d French: 7a Ewbanks: 24 UIAA: VIII ZA: 25 British: E5 6a [details]
FA: John Bachar
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Submitted By: Adam Stackhouse on Mar 6, 2006

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Don't let the rating or the short nature of this climb fool you. This is a stout thin fingers crack that is plain and simply absent of feet. It is located on the right side of the road just past Rock The Boat.


Small cams/nuts sets this up as a TR, and once in a while as a boulder problem.

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Rock Climbing Photo: Driving South (5.11d)
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Doug sending
Rock Climbing Photo: Fingers twisting like taffy.
Fingers twisting like taffy.

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By Nate R
From: Boulder, CO
Apr 13, 2008
rating: 5.11d 7a 24 VIII 25 E5 6a

I finally got this one... Much harder than Hear my Train and Aids Victim in my opinion. There are actually good locks above the lip! But they're hard to find...
By camhead
From: Vandalia, Appalachia
Jan 11, 2010

I don't think that it is necessarily "absent of feet" as the description says. There is one good nob for the first few jams, ad you can also scum in the offset as well. However, this is still one of the most sandbagged climbs I've done. Very hard moves at the lip that I could not put together.
By dtomczik
From: Bishop, CA
May 14, 2010

Simply an awesome boulder problem! Get on it!
Jan 8, 2015
rating: 5.11d 7a 24 VIII 25 E5 6a

What Doug said. Is there a better finger crack problem anywhere? Seriously. I want to know.

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