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Don't Be Messin' With Ma Moves 

YDS: 5.10d French: 6b+ Ewbanks: 21 UIAA: VII+ British: E3 5b

Type:  Sport, 1 pitch, 70'
Consensus:  YDS: 5.10+ French: 6b+ Ewbanks: 21 UIAA: VII+ British: E3 5b [details]
FA: Pat & Azenda Thompson, 2000
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Submitted By: Jeff Lockyer on Apr 10, 2002
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BETA PHOTO: Cactus Cliff - Right (2).


This route is just right of Whiteman's Burden and left of Chompin' at the Cholla. The line follows small holds and great smearing feet on a blackened face to the anchors. The climbing is great from the ground up. Not much to say other than spot the crimps and move on, the crux may be at the last bolt and getting to the anchors from here. A very worthwhile route even though it only gets 1 star in the guide book, not sure about that? I know the photo of the route says '10c/d', but I think overall the ratings on this photo are a little shaky ??


6 bolts - 2 bolt anchor with quicklinks.

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Brendan on the crimps.
Brendan on the crimps.
Matt leading Don't Be Messin' with Ma Moves in order to get Six More Bottles of Basco.
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By Old Fart aka Dave Bohn
Apr 12, 2002

Fun short route but only if you have REALLY THICK calluses. This has got to be one sharpest routes at Shelf and every hold on the route is, not just one or two. I'm thinking that's why it's one star.

By Sirius
From: Oakland, CA
Apr 23, 2004

On this face there are four bolted lines, all with their own anchors: Chompin' at the Cholla is far right, Don't be... is next. Does anyone know the names of the other two routes? One clips the first two or three bolts of Don't be... before going its own way.


By Bill Parmenter
Jun 26, 2004

The left variation of "Don't Be Messin' With Ma Moves" was put up by Bob Robertson and is named "Six More Bottles of Bosco". Bob called it a 5.10a and after climbing it twice, that sounds about right to me.

By Larry Shaw
Jul 7, 2004
rating: 5.10d 6b+ 21 VII+ E3 5b

fun route, to bad it's so short.

By Curt Nelson
From: Fort Collins, CO
Jun 14, 2009
rating: 5.10d 6b+ 21 VII+ E3 5b

A little sharp and technical at the crux. Might as well keep on going past the anchors (left) and finish up with Six More Bottles for more climbing.

By Bal Rau
Nov 21, 2011

Is this the route that shares the first 3 bolts with Early Bird? Based on the bolt count it should be, but neither the book nor this site says so.