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Did Plato Love Trees? 

YDS: 5.9 French: 5c Ewbanks: 17 UIAA: VI British: HVS 5a PG13

Type:  Trad, 3 pitches, 200'
Consensus:  YDS: 5.9- French: 5c Ewbanks: 17 UIAA: VI British: HVS 4c [details]
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Submitted By: Rob P. on May 10, 2009
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BETA PHOTO: The line for the first pitch of Plato. The circle...


Three pitches. Pitch 1: Start at the end of the talus and climb up to the base of the Ross's Crack dihedral and belay. Pitch 2: Traverse up and right, then down and right, and belay below the "Faeries" slab. Pitch 3: Finish up left of the slab.


I rap'd The Great Barrier Roof down to the rock base of Shovel Point. It required one full 60m rope length. From there, locate and climb the thin crack.

We had problems route finding on this one, so be careful, especially on the second pitch. From the first pitch belay (the tree below Ross's Crack). Go up and right on the very thin crack and into a dihedral. Go through some bushes and traverse across rock tripe laden jugs. Go down to the next tree belay.


Thin pro on the first pitch for the first 40-50ft, then it gets better. Second pitch is good for gear, as long as you find it...make sure to help your second out and use a good ammount to prevent huge swings.

All belays are on gear and usually an old mangy tree.

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By DJ Reyes
From: Northern Nevada
Aug 3, 2010

I led this about ten years ago and found the first pitch to be much harder than 5.8. I don't know if holds have fallen off or what but all who followed the route agreed with me on a rating closer to 5.10a.

By Floridaputz
From: Oakland Park, Florida
Aug 6, 2010

I led this back in the late 70's and thought it was about 5.9 I finished up on Faries

By Rob P.
From: Bay Area
Mar 1, 2011

I agree with the comments above, and would rate the first pitch at 5.9. Thin pro and questionable slabby rock with giant back-breaking boulders to fall on if you screw up; typical north shore leading, I suppose. For some real heady climbing, go up Ross's Crack after the first pitch.