Did I on-sight?

I was climbing Thin Fingers at Index for the first time and I had just gotten up to the crux. My foot ended up cutting and I fell back down to the ledge two feet below without weighting the rope. Afterwards I stuck the crux and clipped the chains without falling. So did I on-sight the climb?

No

No because you fell.

Interesting conundrum, I don't believe you onsighted it since you did take a fall and redo a section, but a nice send nonetheless!

To add to the conundrum - if OP had held on when he started slipping and had to downclimbing to start the sequence over, would that still be onsight?

Yea, count it. I'm assuming the "ledge" is mid pitch. On an onsight attempt it's definitely fair game to find a solid stance, scope out a couple moves, and downclimb to regain the stance if you don't like your sequence. Well it just happens that your stance on this climb is extremely solid (a ledge) and you did some dynamic downclimbing to regain it (a jump).

If you have to ask...

I would call it an onsight. If you dident weight the rope, pull on a draw, deck, or climb off route, then I would say you're okay.

Yesterday I racked up to lead the first climb of the day, pulled myself onto the wall to the start holds and began to make the first move when my belayer reminded me we hadn't done our safety checks. I stepped back down to the ground and we did our checks and then I climbed the whole climb without falling.

Did I get the on sight?

Would I have gotten the onsight if I had started to pull myself onto the wall, but been a little off balance and stepped back to the ground and had to make the move again before sending the climb cleanly?

Does anyone give a f#&k?

without the rope would you still be alive? then yes

I'm adding "Dynamic Downclimbing"to my daily repertoire.

You can't "onsight" on top rope. Im assuming since you said you didnt weight the rope you were top roping. You gotta lead it to call it an onsight.

Eric Stern wrote:I was climbing Thin Fingers at Index for the first time and I had just gotten up to the crux. My foot ended up cutting and I fell back down to the ledge two feet below without weighting the rope. Afterwards I stuck the crux and clipped the chains without falling. So did I on-sight the climb?

No.
But I would call it a flash.

The biggest issue here in my mind is finding someone who cares whether you did or not. You only have yourself to answer to so maybe just ask yourself as opposed to the community at large.

I'd call it an onsight if you truly didn't weight the rope.

"Dynamic downclimbing" as someone else put it, should be fair game...

But yeah, does it really matter? The only people who will know that you claimed an onsight are those of us in this thread, and anyone else who sees the tick in your guidebook.

"Dynamic down climbing" is still uncontrolled and is a fall. Just because you didn't weight the rope is irrelevant. You did not on-sight.

Just want to throw this out there again - YOU CANT ONSIGHT ON TOP-ROPE

You did NOT on-sight

Eric Stern wrote:I was climbing Thin Fingers at Index for the first time and I had just gotten up to the crux. My foot ended up cutting and I fell back down to the ledge two feet below without weighting the rope. Afterwards I stuck the crux and clipped the chains without falling. So did I on-sight the climb?

I say nay. Although the rope was not weighted, he did not intentionally "dynamic downclimb" back to the ledge. He fell. An onsight is when you stick the route clean, first try, with no beta or having seen the route before.

You could say he red-pointed it probably. But not onsight.