Crying Flyboys 

Sweet!! Can't wait to get on this one!! It looks like a sweet addition to "The Primo Wall." Nice work, guys!!

This is my kind of bouldering! Great fun!

Key beta: kegel exercises.

Cool route. Good to see the new lines going in!

What a cool little route. Packs a lot more punch than it appears from the ground as well. Cool series of in-obvious moves with an awesome toss to the lip.

This route seems sandbagged. My friend Nick (who climbs .14b) took three tries to do this. He rarely takes more than two tries to send .13b.

Can Nick kegal?

5.13b?! I barely consider myself a 5.12 climber! Woo!

Glad you enjoyed it though! :)

Sandbagged??!!? This is a rarity for Clear Creek it seems.... The place that has had a history of people claiming that the climbing is soft may be turning over a new leaf!!!

Is it so?? Could this be it??? Is the canyon working on a new reputation... one of desperate sandbagged climbing!!! that leaves only the broken core of what was once rock climber.

These are difficult times, my friends. Be careful who you talk to about these matters and really think about who you are going to side with in the end.
Is it going to be the... "it's so sandbagged" group or the "it's too soft?" So, as I digress one must remember to be mindful when discussing route difficulty with others because you never know who may be listening..............

Kaelen, agreed! Don't be dissuaded by Wiled Horse's comments, this route is a little sandbagged and he does climb 5.13.... Here's my two cents.... At first glance, I thought this route looked unappealing to me, but I decided to try it the other day. To my surprise, it was actually fun with good bolt placements and good stone (nice eye, boys). However, the 12d grade seems a little off to me. I feel that Anarchitect is a real 12d, and I'm pretty sure that most agree. This route is harder. Seems to me that the crux of this route has a single harder move on it or at least a comparable move to Public, Squeeze Play, and River Run, which are all on the same wall. Okay, maybe not, but this thing is spitting me off, and I'm pissed! We can all say it's 12d when we do it and be the Crying Flyboys club, but until then, this thing is 13a+!

So it's not just a clever name! Watching you guys on this last night definitely reminded me how hard this route is. I'm not a consistent 5.13 climber, so I gave it the hardest grade that I've climbed a lot of...12d. Seemed pretty hard when I sent. You're right compared to Anarchitect, or The Gauntlet. It's a lot harder crux and very low percentage.

I got the name reference right away...and I seem to remember you walking that first pitch to the Wall of 90s project which clocks in somewhere around 13b? And by walking it, I mean you make it look like 10b, soooo, I would say, yes, you have climbed 13. But like I said, I'll "cry" about it until I send it, and then I'll probably call it 12d! Ha, good job though!

I've changed the grade to 13a/V8. It's hard to grade such a short route, but it seems to be making "crying flyboys" out of some very strong climbers ;)
regardless of the grade it's a very worthy opponent to spar with. Good luck on the up coming sends!

For our first route together, and meeting up for what we called "second-shift" after work in the chilling dark of a January night, Dave and I poked the bolts in. As we worked out the moves, and realizing the full potential of our reaches and kegal strengths (Dave and I are almost identical heights and almost the same ape-indexes) he proudly sent shortly after.

Me Drilling Crying Flyboys,at primo wall, on a cold 2nd shift after work #1 Submitted By: Monty on Feb 1, 2010

Me stealth drillin' on "Crying Flyboys", Primo Wall. Jan. '10. Submitted By: Darren Mabe on Jan 31, 2010

Big Wall Mabe! Are those Makalus on your feetsies?

I can only stand in aiders with flip-flops when it's warm.

Got on this today on top rope! Got my butt kicked!! It was great and interesting. For a short route to climbing and the stone quality are well worth giving this one some attention!! Great route and one I'm going to be working on. As for the grade..... I say... hard until otherwise sent!! Thanks for the great route, guys. Luke-Out

I love this one.

Came back to this one the other day in the freezing cold after having sampled it in the spring; I had forgotten how much fun this one is. Great movement with ever increasing difficulty to an awesome toss to the lip! Great job on this one guys, a quality addition to this wall.

When compared to other .13a's in the Front Range like Sonic Youth, Old Yellar, or The Monument, this one seems easy. I would probably give this a slash rating if there was the option, but I'll take the .13a : )

12e.

Luke, great to see you out and about and on the mend!

Darren, you know there's nothing on earth that can stop that beast! Rock juice is coursing through his veins....

12e - perfect! My thoughts exactly, Dave!

Thanks, Darren.... I love me some rock and really want send this baby!! Jay and Kevin!!! Wow, you guys put that hog away!! Nice sending, people!!

Been on this one a few times and couldn't ever stick the right hand move into the shallow, left-facing seam!! But today that all changed!! Using a thumb pinch on that move allowed me to stick the evil, vertical seam!! And as for the finish moves, I found an ok left hand crimp up and left of the seam that then allowed me to dive at the lip and stick it!! Not the beta I've seen friends use to send, but it worked for me!! Now I still did not send today, but I got the line clean from the sloppy ledge, so I feel close!!! Really pumped to get back out to finish this one off!! Postive things here, people!!! Maybe it's unjustified optimism, but I do believe with my new beta that I can or at least have a great chance of getting this one in the bag next time I'm there!!!! As for my feeling on the grade at this point... I say... five freaken' funteen A!!! WOW!! What fun!! Hope I can sleep tonight! Ye-ha... stepinahoedown partner!!

Short, but oh so very sweet!

Got this one today after many days on over 2 months and had a fantastic time working the red point. A truly fine addition to the wall and glad I was able to experience it. So thanks, Dave and Darren. Well done, men.