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Eds. A discussion ensued after Paul Ross' comment "Well, it keeps you off the streets...and it sure beats sport climbing...." which was off the topic of Things of Beauty and was moved here after the banter cooled off.

Paul...with that comment...it's quite obvious you have done little to no sport climbing.

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Hey if you have done one sport route you have done em all. Must admit there are some multi-pitch bolted routes in Cochise Stronghold that are fun, but I mainly refer to the one pitch things in such places as Rifle. etc. Done a few there but no memory just a line of bolts, and a lot of people shouting TAKE!! I guess it's all a matter of taste....

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Bob,
Your comment on this topic, and every other one, make it abundantly clear that you are a jackass with no tolerance for fellow climbers with opinions that differ from your own. What grade are you in?

I understand I'm violating rule #1, but I believe Bob deserves it. Unless he is secretly profoundly retarded, he should grow the f*#k up.
Jason

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Paul-that was an absolutely classic response! "Done a few there but no memory just a line of bolts, and a lot of people shouting TAKE!!"

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Bob, your drivel is priceless. You telling me to get over myself in the same breath that you remind me of all your high-profile "friends". I'm quite sure Paul doesn't need my help, nor was that my intent. There are only so many of your defensive little comments that I can bear before I need to call you on it. Perhaps YOU need some help protecting your fragile, aging ego.

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Hey Guys settle down. I admit I do wind folk up a bit, it's perhaps a hobby of mine!! I just like to keep a bit of fun in climbing, so don't take my comments too seriously. You're both are correct with your comments. I now confess I have helped in the past to put up a few new sport routes. However, I did go to the confessional box as soon as I could find a sympathetic priest.

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Nice. That was quicker than I expected, Bob. I wondered how long this exchange would last before you subtly threatened to kick my ass. Fortunately my anger is no longer pent-up. I've expressed it here on this forum, from the safety of my home, so that I won't have to risk losing my temper and receiving a beating from you at the crag. I do feel much better after letting it out; this has been very therapeutic for me. Thank you, Paul and Bob, for facilitating this discussion, and I promise to try and get out more as well. That is undisputably excellent advice.

If I'm not mistaken, Paul was a rope mate with the great Don Whillans. You guys better calm down, or Paul might take ya outside and sort you both out.

The only really important question is whether or not "Things of Beauty" are considered Desert Towers or not. I am thinking no... but would love to have my arm twisted.

John,
Way to bring it back to what's important! :)

Are they on the Colorado Plateau? Does it even matter anymore? Todd Gordon's list had some things I thought were questionable but it's Todd and he's climbed everything so I don't think he can be called out by an Ohio-born wanker like myself. (Besides, he is way over 100 anyway) The same goes for Ben Folsom who says he counts anything big and proud and tower-like and is over 100. (with a ton of FAs)

Anyway, I really want to count Tilting at Windmills in Arches... what do you think?

Cheers,
Brad

PS- Are you a dad yet???

Speaking of things of beauty... Lucia. Born 1/1/08

lucia Submitted By: John J. Glime on Jan 14, 2008

Congratulations, John!
Always a party on New Years for you from now on.
Of course, a few hours earlier and you'd have a nice deduction for 07 ;)
(Chloe - 12/31/99)

Thanks guys. Yeah, my first.

Congrads John...Happy New Year..!!

Hi Bob,

I though that the proper name is Hoodoo, not Voodoo:
Hoodoos are tall thin spires of rock that protrude from the bottom of arid basins and badlands. They are composed of soft sedimentary rock and are topped by a piece of harder, less easily-eroded stone that protects the column from the elements. In common usage, the difference between hoodoos and pinnacles or spires is that hoodoos have a variable thickness often described as having a "totem pole-shaped body." A spire, on the other hand, has a smoother profile or uniform thickness that tapers from the ground upward. Hoodoos are most commonly found in the High Plateaus region of the Colorado Plateau and in the Badlands regions of the Northern Great Plains (both in North America). While hoodoos are scattered throughout these areas, nowhere in the world are they as abundant as in the northern section of Bryce Canyon National Park. Walt Disney Imagineers notably based the design of the popular Big Thunder Mountain Railroad attraction around a series of hoodoos, albeit ones constructed out of steel and concrete. Geology purists note that only a tall formation should be called a hoodoo; any other shape is called a 'hoodoo rock'.

Hoodoos range in size from that of an average human to heights exceeding a 10-story building. Formed in sedimentary rock, hoodoo shapes are affected by the erosional patterns of alternating hard and softer rock layers. Minerals deposited within different rock types cause hoodoos to have different colors throughout their height. Good examples of hoodoos are found at Bryce Canyon National Park, located in the U.S. state of Utah (see geology of the Bryce Canyon area).

Hi Bob,
I'm doing pretty well these days. I've actually been getting out to the crags more in this last year than in the previous ten. I've finally adjusted to the marriage, mortgage, kids and grandkids (all sixteen of them!).
I see that you are still new-routing as prolifically as ever. My gosh, you must have more FA's than Becky by now!
You are an inspiration to us all and your legacy will create some wonderful times for generations to follow.
Take care and keep up the good work.

Hoodoo Shmoodoo, are the Things of Beauty technically on the Colorado Plateau? If they are, I'm coming to visit Paul!

Lol...that is funny. I guess I could have checked a map! For conversation's sake, at what point does the headwater of the river get above the plateau? I should just google this...

Is Milner pass in RMNP part of The Colorado Plateau?