By Bob D'Antonio From Superior, CO Apr 23, 2008
| I am working on a new guide to Boulder Canyon which should be out by early Fall...looking for photos and content (routes grades, gear changes and new route information). Please feel free to contact me via this site.
Thanks, Bob |  |
By Tim Stich From Colorado Springs, Colorado Apr 23, 2008
| Well, with all the new routes you and your pals have been putting up, we definitely need a new guide book. I think the stuff you've been doing at Animal World is awesome. Looking forward to it. |  |
By david johnson Apr 23, 2008
| That's great to hear Bob! How comprehensive will this book be? All 1600+ routes, or just sport or what? Is it going to be in color? Good luck with the book. |  |
By Mike Storeim From Evergreen, CO Apr 23, 2008
| Congratulations - That's quite an undertaking!
I think it will be the size of the Denver Yellow Pages - do you think some of those skinny sport types will even be able to pick it up? |  |
By Tony Bubb From Boulder, CO Apr 23, 2008
| I heard a rumor that it is a 'best of' type of book. Please say it isn't so... a complete book (though no book is ever complete) would be nice to have. |  |
By Bob D'Antonio From Superior, CO Apr 23, 2008
| The book will cover all cliffs and boulders in the Canyon but not ever route.
Trying to do a book like this should be fun (ha ha).
It going to be all colors with lots of great actions shots and clean topos.
I thinking somewhere in the 200-250 page range.
Thanks for the encouragement.
Tim or anyone else...if you need any beta on the new routes just contact me. |  |
By percious From Arvada, CO Apr 23, 2008
| Sounds great Bob. I'll see if I can get some good pics of Tonerre tower this summer for you. I really love that crag.
One thing to mention. If you decide to put adverts in the middle of the book, I will personally be less likely to buy it.
cheers. -chris |  |
By jack roberts Apr 23, 2008
| Bob,
I dunno.......are you sure that guidebooks are still relevant? Are you sure you want to go to all that trouble just for the sake of fame and fortune?
Maybe just create a website with the site name "BLDRCYNCLMBS.com and charge for the new information.
I think guidebooks are way over-rated........ unless they have lots of ads of scantily-clad women in them. Then you might sell more!! LOL!
Good luck on your project. Let me know if you want a partner to help you collect beta.
JR |  |
By Tim Stich From Colorado Springs, Colorado Apr 23, 2008
| Yes, at least half of the pictures of climbers should be women. Ladies, get out there and pose for some shots dag nabbit. We can line you up photographers no problem. |  |
By Bob D'Antonio From Superior, CO Apr 23, 2008
| Jack...I was thinking more on the lines of old, over-the-hill men like you, Greg, Vaino and me in the buff for pictures...sound good to you? |  |
By kirra Apr 23, 2008
| hey Bob how was panama... Any FA's..?
~hard men in the buff sounds good-to-me. Don't forget JR's purple-pompadour & your mullet..! :)
If you wear yours I'll wear mine (red w/devilhorns) |  |
By Bob D'Antonio From Superior, CO Apr 23, 2008
| Kirra...Panama was really good..got to climb for a few days and spend three days birding. When to Costa Rica after that and just relaxed on the beach with my wife.
Thanks for asking. |  |
By Tim Stich From Colorado Springs, Colorado Apr 23, 2008
| Bob D'Antonio wrote: Jack...I was thinking more on the lines of old, over-the-hill men like you, Greg, Vaino and me in the buff for pictures...sound good to you?
Blarrrrrrgh! |  |
By david johnson Apr 23, 2008
| Bob D'Antonio wrote: The book will cover all cliffs and boulders in the Canyon but not ever route. Trying to do a book like this should be fun (ha ha). It going to be all colors with lots of great actions shots and clean topos. I thinking somewhere in the 200-250 page range. Thanks for the encouragement. Tim or anyone else...if you need any beta on the new routes just contact me.
How many routes are you thinking? |  |
By jack roberts Apr 23, 2008
| Sounds good Bob.
I'll drag out my old lycra.
See you monday!
jack |  |
By Bob D'Antonio From Superior, CO Apr 24, 2008
| David...a lot...maybe 1500-1700.
I already have a few offers for quality photos.
Jack..where are we climbing on Monday??
I'll call you Sunday night. |  |
By Avery Nelson From Boulder, CO Apr 24, 2008
| Bob D'Antonio wrote: The book will cover all cliffs and boulders in the Canyon but not ever route.
So, out of curiosity, what type of routes won't be included... and, how come? |  |
By Bob D'Antonio From Superior, CO Apr 24, 2008
| Avery...I just don't have he time to try and track down people to find a obscure route that maybe won't ever get climbed again.
I'm trying to do balance of a best of book and complete book...with quality photos, good directions and topos.
It is being published by Kevin Daniels at Fixe USA as I'm not working with Falcon so I can have better control over the book.
I'll also make more money. I'm thinking this book might get me over the edge and let me retire. :)
As to advers in the book...I'm selling only six pages of it and I think Neptune's wants the inside cover. |  |
By Tony Bubb From Boulder, CO Apr 24, 2008
| Bob D'Antonio wrote: As to advers in the book...I'm selling only six pages of it and I think Neptune's wants the inside cover.
Inside covers and back of table of contents and etc- OK. In meat of text and on info pages = yuck. |  |
By kirra Apr 24, 2008
| Tony Bubb wrote: Inside covers and back of table of contents and etc- OK. In meat of text and on info pages = yuck.
agreed... personally I don't mind "Gear & Climbing ONLY" ads, I understand the need & support their presence. Don't appreciate it in the way of why I bought the book = route info.
(...or if it must be there, place it back-to-back with another ad, that way I can eliminate the page entirely :) |  |
By Tim Stich From Colorado Springs, Colorado Apr 24, 2008
| It's a good thing you found someone to help publish the guide and give you a better cut of the sales. It's a drag when someone like Falcon marginalizes the book with micromanagement and then takes more coin than they deserve. |  |
By theMike From denver Apr 24, 2008
| Please please make this book way more durable then the two thin guides (I believe they are called something like "sport climbs boulder canyon, vol.1 and 2) that are currently out now. Those books have to be the absolute worst books to even consider bringing outdoors. Both of mine fell apart in less than 72 hours, before I could even get them out to the cliff! Shotty binding at best! |  |
By Bob D'Antonio From Superior, CO Apr 24, 2008
| Go to the Fixe USA website and you will see the quality books that Kevin puts out.
This book will be worth every penny of the $100 dollars that we are charging.
Just kidding... |  |
By kirra Apr 24, 2008
| Bob D'Antonio wrote: Just kidding... but in yer dreams huh Bob... :) |  |
By Jason Haas From Westminster, CO Apr 24, 2008
| Bob D'Antonio wrote: Avery...I just don't have he time to try and track down people to find a obscure route that maybe won't ever get climbed again. I'm trying to do balance of a best of book and complete book...with quality photos, good directions and topos.
Good luck Bob, I know you've been working on it for a long time. I'm impressed if you can squeeze 1500 routes into 250pages. A comprehensive book would be quite the undertaking, but I always view select guides as a slippery slope - how does one determine if a climb is worthy or to say that no one else will want to climb it again? It also leaves room for someone to try and do a more comprehensive book like you besting Rolofoson or...like Jim Beissel after asking about all these obscure routes lately (Just kidding JB). Again, best of luck to you bob. |  |
By Bob D'Antonio From Superior, CO Apr 24, 2008
| Jason...how is your project going?
Kirra...when its all said and done...maybe 20-30 cents an hour for my time. :) |  |
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