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By Shane Z
From Colorado
Nov 20, 2008
laissez le bon rouleau de temps!

Seth,
You will find a job later. Now is the time to climb and not worry about the future. Many of us have lived in Summit County - I actually graduated from Summit County High School in 1985, and, I must say, you WILL find a job at a ski resort and you WILL ski/snowboard/climb the entire season. I know it's stressful not having a job because you have bills to pay. I've been layed off twice over the years, and, I sincerely understand your predicament.

However, this is what you are going to do; Pack your gear, have a beer(or two), relax/contemplate, and go climbing with Sal and friends. This is an experience that you don't want to miss. Understand? Good.


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By Tony B
From Boulder, CO
Nov 20, 2008
Tony Bubb climbing Hard Core Jollies (12a) at Funk Rock. Image by Mindy Huddleston, Circa 1994.

Seth.
In a world where few people take any responsibility seriously, it is great to see that you do so.

That said, you can find something to get you by if you must. Work odd jobs and day labor, wait table, ring the register at a liquor store, etc... Silverthorne probably doesn't have the same opportunities as many places, but it will have some, even if you have to dunk fries for a month.

I did that when I moved here and lived out of my car for a while...
Yes, liquor store, machine shop, temp labor, helping build a house (near silverthorne, as it were), sorting neckties for quality checks and packing orders, etc. Some will be reluctant to hire you, but you tell them:

"Really, I'm a pretty smart guy- you'll hardly have to train me. I have a good future and I'm not going to screw it up by stealing from your cash register or slacking off at work. I'm new here and I plan on impressing you on whatever I do so that in the future you can be a great reference for my next job. I won't be late to work, hung over, slacking off, none of that. I'd just like to work 6 weeks and make ends meet, maybe longer or a lot longer if this works out for both of us."

I used something like that a few times and the only question anyone ever asked me after that was: "When can you start?" One place paid me extra too, better than they had advertised.

You chose where you wanted to be and that's the big step in life. You can find work where you need it, but it's hard to find a place you want to live near a particular job.

All that said. Nobody is going to hire you the day before Thanksgiving. Go have a weekend of fun.


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By seth0687
From Fort Collins
Nov 20, 2008
Scarface....

Alright, I'm going to the creek, I'm just gonna try and relax. Thanks so much for all you guys support and encouragement. I think someone was questioning what the job was at hand.

I was gonna be a server for a cafe in Keystone.

I have experience in Finance, Retail and commercial banking, management, some security experience, etc.. etc... can give resume through pm if necessary.


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By Shane Z
From Colorado
Nov 20, 2008
laissez le bon rouleau de temps!

Wildernest usually hires people for snow removal, etc. Check out the employment office in Frisco when you get back from Utah.


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By Dirty Gri Gri, or is it GiGi?
From Vegas
Nov 20, 2008
A shady character lurking by Jonny's guidebooks. <br /><br />Taken 11/22/09

Seth,

If you don't mind working jobs no one else likes to do, then go to Manpower, and tell them you'll work any job they have to offer, any hours, and any shifts. You might have to go to two or three different job sites in a week, but so what, you're desperate, right? That'll buy you some time before you land a better job, and you won't feel so overwhelmed hustling to fill out hundreds of applications, and waiting around in these tough times. You'd get paid every week, and if you are a good worker, they'll hook you up with better jobs along the way.

Manpower Temporary Services
www.us.manpower.com

931 E Harmony Rd # 5
Fort Collins, CO 80525
(970) 226-0113


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By Robert 560
From The Land of the Lost
Nov 20, 2008
Waterfall

seth0687 wrote:
Alright, I'm going to the creek, I'm just gonna try and relax. Thanks so much for all you guys support and encouragement.


You'll have a great time...Enjoy!


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By seth0687
From Fort Collins
Nov 20, 2008
Scarface....

Thanks alot for all the ideas guys, I'm gonna shake every damn tree I can find when I get back from the Creek....I do think I need a chance to relax....stress to the max right now, not healthy....must...get....creek.....


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By Andy Novak
Nov 20, 2008
Pitch 4, South Ridge, Notchtop, ROMO

seth0687 wrote:
Alright, I'm going to the creek.


Seth is rad...


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By Mark Cushman
From Erie, CO
Nov 20, 2008
Bolted Block of Wood

Seth, don't go, IT'S A TRAP!


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By seth0687
From Fort Collins
Nov 20, 2008
Scarface....

Mark Cushman wrote:
Seth, don't go, IT'S A TRAP!


how bad could it be...what are they gonna do fire me? lol


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By Shawn Mitchell
From Broomfield
Nov 20, 2008
Splitter Jams on the Israel/Palestine Security Wall.

Mark Cushman wrote:
Seth, don't go, IT'S A TRAP!

Shut up, Mark. It's not true, Seth...there are *no* MP sacrifice rituals that require a victim with passing resemblance to Frodo Baggins! Not a word of truth.


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By Deaun Schovajsa
From Arvada, CO
Nov 20, 2008
You wanna' look like this when ya get old!

Seth, welcome to Colorado bro. I am glad to see that you've decided to go to IC for some desert fun. I am sure the job thing will work out when you get back.

Sal sounds like the best of what climbers are about. Cheers to you my man! Hope you guys have a kick ass time out there. Pop a few cold ones for the rest of us MP slobs back at the grind!

Oh, and Seth, Shawn and I will be looking for you when you get back...if you think that the desert kicked your a$$...oh yeah.


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By Matt Sedor
From bozeman, MT
Nov 20, 2008
robbins crack

yo seth i was also thinkin you should go to human resource in frisco, vail human resources at the base of peak 8 in breck or to mountain temp services in frisco, they basically will find you temp jobs until your job starts in december....i shoveled snow and changed out all of the matresses in a condo complex for three weeks until my lift op job started....kinda blew but it got me by until i could start my job. mountaintemp services would be a good bet
matt


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By seth0687
From Fort Collins
Nov 20, 2008
Scarface....

Matt Sedor wrote:
yo seth i was also thinkin you should go to human resource in frisco, vail human resources at the base of peak 8 in breck or to mountain temp services in frisco, they basically will find you temp jobs until your job starts in december....i shoveled snow and changed out all of the matresses in a condo complex for three weeks until my lift op job started....kinda blew but it got me by until i could start my job. mountaintemp services would be a good bet matt



ya a few people said I should go to copper human resources vail human resources and keystone human resources and shake any jobs I can find. I'm gonna try it all. I just need something to pay the bills....rent, car payment, insurance, cell..and food gas etc..


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By Andy Novak
Nov 20, 2008
Pitch 4, South Ridge, Notchtop, ROMO

seth0687 wrote:
how bad could it be...what are they gonna do fire me? lol


Seth, once these people get to the desert all hell breaks loose. They do drugs, drink beer NOT for sale in Utah, and...eat each other. You're fresh meat Seth.


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By seth0687
From Fort Collins
Nov 20, 2008
Scarface....

Andy Novak wrote:
Seth, once these people get to the desert all hell breaks loose. They do drugs, drink beer NOT for sale in Utah, and...eat each other. You're fresh meat Seth.


so basically what your saying is they know how to have fun? I could use a few lessons in that department.


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By Olaf Mitchell
From Paia, Maui, Hi,
Nov 20, 2008
MY LIFE

Seth,My first trip to Indian Creek was so long ago that friends had not been invented yet. When I first got that red dirt under my finger nails, I found that it was impossible to remove and I couldn't get enough of it!
I am glad the you are taking advantage of the E-ticket to crack heaven.
Also,you are going to have soo much fun living in the mountains this winter. Scraping by in a ski town with a lift pass can be an experience that you will remember for ever.


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By dave v
From Helena, MT
Nov 20, 2008

Mark Cushman wrote:
Seth, don't go, IT'S A TRAP!


If it's not too late get to the library and check out SAL's book "How to Serve Man". ;)

Go to the creek and don't worry about it - just have fun. You will not regret it and everything will work out. Wish I had done more of that before I became an old fart. Also wish I had had a chance to desert climb - of course back then the sediments were still hardening.


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By Richard S
From Centennial
Nov 20, 2008

Seth
I will be starting a new house in the next few weeks but it is down in the flat lands of Denver.
Email me and I will hook you up with a contractor in Breck. Last time I talked with him he was busy .


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By Phoenix
From louisville, colorado
Nov 20, 2008
Regular Route, A.K.A. Mark of Zorro<br />Boulder Canyon

Let me first be clear, I love climbing and will continue to climb so long as my body permits me. As well, I love Indian Creek. The Creek is a truly magical place. It is one of the most breath-taking landscapes on the planet, as are the highlands of the Rocky Mountains.

With that said, and I mean no offense, I don't think that it is a wise choice to have gone the Creek trip over finding a job. The whole time may cost $50 out of pocket, but remember the other expense and consequence of not working for a week. That time not working is much needed money flying out of your pocket, $100? $300? Many of us have been through hard times, and dirtbagged around, but that is one thing when you don't have responsibilities. With car payments and bills and renting by yourself in a high cost housing market, time off is an pricey indulgence. THERE IS ALWAYS WORK!!!! Seasonal or not, if you're hungry go work for Labor Ready. They pay daily, and if you find something that suits your fancy, you can always apply to said company.

Now why all this talk about seasonal jobs, washing dishes and running a register? Go work for a construction company sweeping floors, watch, learn, and apply = a career, a trade, a job you can get anywhere, and the pay is better than the latter. I have to agree with Tony here, that being a valuable asset to your employers will always guarantee you work.

So Seth, in conclusion, now that you have had your first desert adventure (hope it was an absolute blast, how goes the lack of knuckle skin?) Buckle down, and keep your chin up. The universe will provide for its children my brother.


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By Mike Lane
From Centennial, CO
Nov 20, 2008

There is a boatload of construction going on up there. And just like anything else its hard to get your foot in the door with no experience. You would need to earnestly sell your eagerness to whomever, just to get a job as a laborer. And you would actually have to compete for that work with "underdocumented job-seekers" who just so happen to speak spanish. This is turn could lead to a trade. But Beware: About half, if not more, of the journeyman-level folks I know who are intelligent all started out as something else and fell back to construction to pay the bills. Its like quicksand. First, you actually get drawn to the hardness of it all, (the elements, hazards, bosses that yell and threaten you) then you start to learn how to actually make something. That part is addictive. Just something to be aware of.

If you lose your apartment, there are some geothermal-heated caves by Glenwood; just sleep with a knife under your pillow.


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By Ian F.
From Phx
Nov 21, 2008

So true. I used to love the laboring. I always thought it was unfare that I, in essence, was getting paid to workout. Still love to dig. Kind of wierd. So many options to work different muscle groups.


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By Mark Felber
From Frisco, CO,USA
Nov 21, 2008

In case you haven't seen their ads, SOS Staffing (970-668-8991) is a temporary employment agency in Frisco, 409 Main St. There were notices up at the Breckenridge Recreation Center for jobs available, mostly low paying seasonal jobs but one of them might lead into something with the town of Breck.

Between the lousy economy and a lack of snow, I'm expecting a tough winter in Summit County. Have fun in Indian Creek but start looking for work immediately after you get back.


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By Dirty Gri Gri, or is it GiGi?
From Vegas
Nov 21, 2008
A shady character lurking by Jonny's guidebooks. <br /><br />Taken 11/22/09

Ian F. wrote:
So true. I used to love the laboring. I always thought it was unfare that I, in essence, was getting paid to workout. Still love to dig. Kind of wierd. So many options to work different muscle groups.


That's so, so true.

For extra money I was a bottle digger after my "day job" and I miss digging so much that whenever we get the two wheel drive truck stuck in the desert, I get so excited to jump out, and start digging. Hell, just the other day I was digging for Turquoise. Ian is right, labor stuff stays in your blood for life. : )

Anyway, Seth, if you end up doing temporary factory jobs to survive, just think of it as entertainment. I'll never forget any of those character building factory jobs I had in my teen years. If I had all day, I could tell you some stories.

Also, when times are tough, and your wage is low, don't just think about working one job; have two or three money making activities if you can swing it. Get creative.

Last advice, "Get a job", then play. Don't waste valuable job hunting time. It's no picnic to be broke.

Good luck!


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By Mike Lane
From Centennial, CO
Nov 21, 2008

The Rocky ran an article about how the unemployment office has hold times of 2 hours. I would recommend that you avoid the Animal House advise ROAD TRIP!. And concentrate on getting work first.

Yo Gigi, I routinely have digging projects; I'd be more than happy to provide you with all the free digging you'd ever want. My crew does not share your enthusiasm, but I like the workouts.


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