Fat City Crack 

True, its quite common to see solid 5.10 leaders hanging out at the roof (off of fortunately perfect gear) all day trying to figure out what the hell is going on...

This route felt like a definite sandbag to me, maybe .10c if you know the exact beta on it, however it is impossible to know what to do until your head pops over the roof and you don have long to look for the easiest sequence before your arms give out. Most climbers do a hard jamming, heel hook, belly flop move that feels more like .11a.

Roof beta: jam high w/ right, palm down with left on blunt arete, and muckle up your feet. Good jams, you can have gear above you if you fight for it too. -Sloth

This is an easy 10 lead for taller climbers. I'm 6-4, thought the roof was 9+ or 10-. The crux for me was the finger crack at the start of the second pitch. The bolts protecting the slot are scary looking, but a fist sized cam or two will get you through it fine.

As one reaches over the lip of the roof, there is a good crimper for your left hand just up and to the left of the crack.

There is a great picture of a free solo on Fat City Crack in the (March?) issue of climbing magazine.

wide gear is handy for the 1st pitch.

I really don't think wide gear is necessary for P1, even if you're sewing it up (which I did, first time on it). You could place a couple of 3.5 friends (I guess that is borderline wide) if you wanted to.

I climbed this route last weekend and didn't use anything bigger than a # 2 on the 1st pitch, and I set a good amount of gear. The 3rd pitch has more good climbing in it than I expected. 2nd pitch is big fun!!!

I remember the first time I did this around twenty years ago. I jammed both hands in the crack above the roof and in quiet desperation jumped both feet up beneath my hands. Amazingly enough, it worked, but I recommend one of these other guys beta.

Ran into Mike Caldwell on my way up to do this route for the first time and he mentioned that he retro-bolted 2 bolts on High Plains Drifter which starts just 12' after you pull the OH with a traverse left. Quality 10b route! although the RP's I placed on the way up were suspect.

I also thought the OH was 10-. --Ross

The two bolts that are in the start of the chimney section have been replaced by a bomber bolt with a lowering ring. It is well placed so you don't need any large gear on the pitch. For the rest of the route you do not need anything larger than a #3 Camalot although a #3.5 would come in handy on the P3. The 9+ part on P2 is harder (mentally and physically) than the roof IMHO. Good route with great climbing on all the pitches. Casey Bernal

Felt like a boulder problem that once you work it you wonder why you thought it was hard in the first place. Very Hard Move at the roof, and the finger crack is full value. Got crushed at the roof but figured out the sequence by hanging at taking a good look. The rating is for the OS lead, and I feel that due to the nature of the crux ( blinded ) that it is harder due to it's trickery. I have had some success at 11a but this roof shut me down hard. It was embarrassing hanging while a party behind we waited. I will climb it again with the beta in mind, but that's not quite the same is it.

When I did this route, I linked pitch one and two together. The rope drag is not bad if you are careful with where you put pro and use runners well. Putting the two together makes a fantastic pitch with a little of everything (a long moderate handcrack to warm-up, followed by a short thin fingercrack, a hand-traverse, some chimneying, and a roof with good pro...what more could you ask for?) I've done plenty of multi-pitch routes that didn't offer as much good climbing as this one pitch.

Also, if you have to bail, you can get to the ground from the bolts at the top of the first pitch with one 60m rope. As I recall, the rope just reaches without knots, or you may have to downclimb a move or two of easy climbing. From the sound of it, the new bolts in the chimney have a rap ring as well. So if you can't pull the roof, you can probably get off of the route without leaving gear (rap from the chimney to the anchors at the top of the 1st pitch, then do another rap to the ground)

Combined with Cheap Date makes for 4 outstanding pitches!

Three Stars for sure.I also felt that the finger crack was more demanding. I guess my hands were just the right size for the roof. The third pitch is wonderful!

There is only a single bolt in the chimney before the roof on P2. It's new and adequate for an emergency retreat , but shouldn't be counted on as a descent anchor if things go badly at the roof. This would require down climbing the slot and it would be easier to use 'dangle and thrash' A0 tactics to surmount the roof at that point.

Was out on this climb middle July. Did a lot of whining on this roof...Thanks for all of you who didn't laugh at this small Asian girl from Georgia...It was great...

I only give this 2 stars, largely because of the first pitch, which is an annoyance that must be overcome to get to the good stuff. We used the standard finish, although next time maybe will take High Plains Drifter.

I found the pro somewhat tricky on P1.

My partner, Mike Flanagan, led the crux pitch. Neither of us had any problem on the 10a finger crack, although pro is a little sketchy (thin RPs). We both used chimney technique to get up to the roof, which was a little more problematic with a CamelBak on and definitely not recommended with a pack. Mike led the crux roof on Tagger earlier in the week and got it first try, no prob. He had a harder time with Fat City, having to resort to retreat twice before pulling it free. I, on the other hand, fell once before pulling the roof on Tagger, then got Fat City first try. Go Figure... I don't know if that helps anyone to discern the relative difficulty between the two or not...

P3 looks a lot easier from the belay than it seemed to be. Sustained 5.9. I actually thought the climbing to be pretty straightforward, but placing pro is often somewhat blind from relatively poor stances.

Photos coming . . .

It is possible to rappel to the ground from the bolt anchor at the top of P1 if you have a 60m rope--just barely.

Thought the pro was excellent on P1. #3 Camalot is nice but not required. There are a lot of excellent large stopper placements (#8 and larger).

Hadn't fallen on a 10 in 25 years, but I fell off of this. Finally my friend gave me beta about scumming my right hip up over the lip which allowed me to get hold of something that made the grade seem close enough. Another trick in the bag. Now if I could only remember half the ones that were already in there.

Having several RPs and the smallest cams (blue & black Alien) for the P2 10a finger crack was key. The gear is there...but it is tiny and a bit nerve racking to place at times. I thought this section was solid 5.10 personally. Harder than the first pitch of Perelandra just to the right and I felt harder than High Plains Drifter. You can tell I haven't done much thin trad lately as I had 2 RP's and two small cams within 2' of each other. I just don't trust that small stuff much. How much of a fall is a #3 RP going to hold?

Just as Charles Vernon posted - I feel pretty confident on most 10s and this roof shut me down. I'm going with 10+/11- for an onsight grade. I can see if you know the move maybe it is less difficult. The jams are there, but hard to figure out the feet and the clock starts clicking fast once you start to pull over. I couldn't reach the little side pull without a second jamb after the good finger lock. This second jamb I just kept slipping off off without having dialed in my feet. Maybe I should have heel hooked. We just got worked over on the 2nd pitch of Perelandra so I wasn't in the mood to try it more that 3 times. Perhaps I just didn't really pull hard and go for it enough. Soooo much easier once you pull on your gear! I got the move on Tagger in Eldo 2nd try.

The chimney up to it wasn't so bad...good small foot holds and some spots to mantle with your left hand. The big bolt below you wasn't so bad either.

The right-leaning lieback after this was also interesting and no gimme.

I'm with folks above, I thought that the .10 finger crack at the start of P2 was more sustained, difficult and nerve racking than any of moves getting up to and pulling the roof. A outstanding outing never the less. The finger crack eats up nuts and Aliens in the pin scars.