Bottom ice in good shape. Top section thin and would be hard to drive a good screw. Better top roped. To get to Hidden Falls, park and walk to ranger station. Follow trail up to Copeland falls sign. Take left crossing stream. Find trail and follow for a little bit. You will see falls on left. To top rope: From the base of the falls(facing the falls) head left following cliff. I took first step ravine possible to top of falls. I also took a second rope to tie off to a tree about 30 feet back from the center of the falls to set up a top rope. All went well.