The Web 

ATTENTION!!!!

As of 4-4-08 I have fixed draws on this route. I intend on taking them down shortly. If you have a problem with this fixed gear please let me know. I have no problem taking them down for you I just want them back. I visit this route once a week. The draws are red taped.

The 3rd bolt's hanger is still off. We will try to fix this again as the fall is totally sketch for decking if you blow moves near the 4th bolt. We just had the wrong-sized nut to get this fixed. I am not sure why it was pulled in the first place. It is fully clippable on lead and is a better place to clip to avoid a big pendulum and scraping the deck. It might as well have a hanger on it if the bolt is going to remain in tact.

Thanks for leaving the draws.
sal.

The hanger on the third bolt has been replaced. Send on....

Do things never get better, only worse? Or is it just this age crap? While a lot of hot lines have been developed around Boulder in the last decade, The Web is still a real test piece that can leave your ego plundered and your forearms abused, and pitching the pink lycra may not simplify things very much. On the other hand, The Web is hard to beat if you are just looking for a bruising work out with zero approach. Over the years, The Web may have gotten more difficult - it seems from my foggy memmory that some of the square cut edges between the first and second clip are missing, forcing all of the initial action on to the sloping, greasy side pulls. Getting utterly thrashed on this line reminds me of a truism that was batted around at CATS years ago: "if you want to climb hard, then you have to climb hard". What that always meant to me was that no amount of pulling at a softer grade adequately prepares you for how hard you have to pull to pull at the harder grade. Unfortunately, that seems to demand that some percentage of one's climbing is going to be spent working in the beginners mode. On the other hand, it's inspiring, and even daunting, to realize that a lot climbers in Boulder make this look easy. There must be a lot of folks out there paying dues for nothing more than the simple satisfaction of doing well something that is very difficult.

Schnikes....more like rest before the first bolt, and after clipping the anchors.

Peter, your synopsis of this route couldn't be farther from the truth. The Web is a bona fide Eldo classic, and it still sees its fair share of traffic. It has everything (great movement, steep, sustained angle, ease of access, and stellar conditions for photo shoots). Moreover, there are two warm-up routes within five feet of it. This was one of my early 5.13s, and it took me forever to get it, but I never got bored climbing the route.

Time goes on and things continue to change, those vintage Mammut bolts are finally gone, replaced with new equipment by a friendly Argentinian guy.

Looking up this route again for my blog (mountainsandwater.blogspot.com) I read Ken's comment today. Perhaps mountainproject administrators can add an icon for whether a climb offers good conditions for photo shoots. That said, Ken, the description is satirical.

By the way, in a recent Sportiva ad, the route is rated 13c. Is Sportiva trying to say that the new Solution makes 13a/b routes 13c? As an aging climber myself I would prefer shoes that make routes easier not harder. Sportiva posing another aging climber on the Web seems only to reinforce my description of this venerable classic.

Did Rolo replace the bolts? Were they donated to the Neptune Climbing Museum?

Whomever replaced the bolts did an excellent job! The replacement bolts are located approximately 3 or 4 inches right of where the original Mammut ring bolts used to be. The patching job is quality in that you really have to look hard to determine where the old holes used to be. The new hardware appears to be Fixe 12mm SS wedge bolts w/ ASCA-branded camo Fixe hangers w/ Fixe double rings at the anchors. Great hardware although when it's time to replace the bolts again (which may not be that far off [5-10 years?] given the recent traffic on the route, the steep angle, and the volume of large falls at bolts 2 and 4), new holes will have to be drilled yet again (for the third time). Also, the wedge bolts are really prone to spinning hangers. Despite the aforementioned, the rebolting job is excellent overall and special thanks to the "friendly Argentinean guy" for a quality job.

Chris Hill here-

Usually I spell my name without the question mark at the end.

I did the FA w/ Christian Griffith in November 1986. It was the 3rd 5.13 in Eldorado SP, at the time. This was before power drills, so we hand drilled the bolts on rappell. I'm actually impressed that the bolts lasted 21 years, and thankful that they were recently replaced.


I'm glad that people still get out and have fun on that little pitch.