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The Yellow Spur 

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FA: Layton Kor, Dave Dornan, 1959. FFA: R. Robbins, P. Ament, 19
Type: Trad
Consensus: 5.10- [details]
Length: 7 pitches
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Submitted By: Patrick Vernon on Jan 1, 2001


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Jerome leading the crux 6th pitch 8/30/06.


Getting There 

Find the start to the route by approaching the Roof Routes area. You park at the lower parking lot, hike the trail around the W side of The Whale's Tail. Follow the trail across the concrete pad, take the switchbacks, take the left fork. Continue on the trail down and below the pretty, short wall with Pickpocket. Go L and up the Redgarden Trail. Follow the trail past the 2 railroad tie stepped sections, past the ladder. You continue on the trail until you get to the obvious huge chimney, West Chimney. Gear up around here below a beautiful, smooth face about 150 ft tall. Go down & R a very short distance. Pick an approach (about 20 ft) to the ledge where you start Yellow Spur. The direct start (below a pin) is L of the traditional start (at a shallow dihedral with an obvious traverse L).


Description 

This is one of the most popular routes in Eldo, and for a good reason. It is long, not too sustained, and a beautiful direct line. The climbing is all pretty straight forward. The 5.10 variation on the second to last pitch is kinda stiff for .10a, but is really well protected on bolts. The last pitch is runout but easy. The direct start is not too bad, more of a high boulder problem than anything, although I had a friend who sprained his ankle on it once.

P1 direct-Scramble onto it and arrive shortly at some caked-on chalk and pin scars below a break in a long roof band. This was Kors original start; it is 5.10 and protects with tricky small stopper placements.

P1 standard-a much easier start ascends a short dihedral 20 ft. to the right. Cut back left, then climb further up huge holds over the exciting roof, and head right to a tree belay-5.9 (about 30 ft. of elevation gain).

P2-go up left, then up a fantastic dihedral, with face moves at the end, to another tree, 5.8.

P3-head up cracks and corners to a rotten band; continue over a scary bulge and another crack to a beautiful, exposed ledge, also 5.8.

P4-fifteen feet right of the belay, ascend a large, moderate dihedral. Hand traverse right, avoiding a huge overhang, and climb another 5.8 corner up and then right to a small, exposed stance. You can also belay on a large ledge 10 feet lower with less exposure.

P5-climb straight up, make a delicate step right into a thin crack (with several pitons) and ascend that (the crux) to a scary detached flake [now gone]. Make a beautiful ascending 5.7 traverse up left to lower angle terrain and a belay on the arete, or climb straight up past bolts at 5.10 and reach the same belay.

P6-head up the spectacular 5.6 arete to the summit of Tower One.


Protection 

Standard rack up to 3".


Descent 

From the tree 20 feet below the summit, rap straight down to the gully on the east side. Alternatively, downclimb to the gully and walk down it. Either way, continue to down gully to the east and south, to the base of some trees that are at the end of Ruper.

Now turn back to the west and scramble up a few hundred feet, aiming for a large notch on the south side of the tower.

Go through the notch, then down big stone steps about 30 feet, the left another 30 feet to reach two big rap bolts. A 100' rap will NOT quite reach the ground, but it's an easy downclimb. Be careful.

You're now on a nice grassy ledge. Scramble west, over a fin of rock (do not go up to the higher notch). Over the fin you'll find a nice ledge with rap chains. Rap 80' to another set of chains, then 90' to ground. A short walk up north up the ledge will take you to your packs.



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Tony Bubb follows the final arete (5.6) of The Yellow Spur.   Photo by Jerry Bargo.

Tony Bubb follows the final arete (5.6) of The Yel...

Leading the last pitch of the Yellow Spur 5.6. Photo by Jason Seaver.

Leading the last pitch of the Yellow Spur 5.6. Pho...

Janet Conner heading up to the bolt ladder.  Photo: Scott Conner

Janet Conner heading up to the bolt ladder. Photo...

Looking down the exposed arete of Tower 1.  Photo: Scott Conner.

Looking down the exposed arete of Tower 1. Photo:...

No, I didn't take this off a motivational poster.  Two climbers enjoying a beautiful day.

No, I didn't take this off a motivational poster. ...

Unnamed climber finishing the traverse at the top of Pitch 1.

Unnamed climber finishing the traverse at the top ...

Looking to protect the hand traverse (P4 as described above).

Looking to protect the hand traverse (P4 as descri...

Pulling the overhang on the first pitch.

Pulling the overhang on the first pitch.

Chris Carithers tops out on Yellow Spur.  Photo: Mike Morley

Chris Carithers tops out on Yellow Spur. Photo: M...

Chris Carithers pulls through the overhang at the top of Pitch 4.  Photo: Mike Morley

Chris Carithers pulls through the overhang at the ...

Yellow Spur

Yellow Spur

Pulling around the corner to start the second to last pitch (who knows what number it is--all that matters is that's it the best one on the route IMO).

Pulling around the corner to start the second to l...

Chalking up on a very windy day.  I thought Boots was going to get blown off several times.

Chalking up on a very windy day. I thought Boots ...

Boots using the small sidepulls, edges, knobs, and tiny pockets to work his way up.

Boots using the small sidepulls, edges, knobs, and...

Boots traversing to the last pitch.

Boots traversing to the last pitch.

Climbers on the upper two pitches of the Yellow Spur.  The climber on the lower right is on the crux bolt ladder.  Photo taken from the top of Handcracker on 6/15/03.

Climbers on the upper two pitches of the Yellow Sp...

Boots almost to the clip.

Boots almost to the clip.

An unknown climber starting the 5.10a face on P6.

An unknown climber starting the 5.10a face on P6.

Aron & I cruised this arete on 8/6. Lots of fun but better with 2 hands.

Aron & I cruised this arete on 8/6. Lots of fun bu...

A congregation of climbers near the summit of Yellow Spur.  Photo taken from the summit of Rewritten.

A congregation of climbers near the summit of Yell...

Battling the roof on the first pitch.

Battling the roof on the first pitch.

3rd pitch beauty

3rd pitch beauty

Ron Olsen tackling the overhang on the first pitch.

Ron Olsen tackling the overhang on the first pitch...

Christa Cline on the slick corner at the top of the fifth pitch.

Christa Cline on the slick corner at the top of th...

Constance fighting hard at the crux of Yellow Spur.

Constance fighting hard at the crux of Yellow Spur...

Yellow Spur P1, with crack/seam "6 feet left of regular start".

Yellow Spur P1, with crack/seam "6 feet left of re...

Pulling the roof P1 of the Yellow Spur

Pulling the roof P1 of the Yellow Spur

Leading the top 5.10a crux on the Yellow Spur after the classic 5.9 pin ladder.

Leading the top 5.10a crux on the Yellow Spur afte...

Neil topping out on the Yellow Spur

Neil topping out on the Yellow Spur

On the Yellow Spur-photo by Paul Rey

On the Yellow Spur-photo by Paul Rey

Soloist on Yellow Spur

BETA PHOTO: Soloist on Yellow Spur

Dave leading the traverse

Dave leading the traverse

Someone finishing Yellow Spur. View from Swanson.

Someone finishing Yellow Spur. View from Swanson.

Peter and Jerome at the P5 belay 8/30/06.

Peter and Jerome at the P5 belay 8/30/06.

Jerome and Peter hanging out 8/30/06.

Jerome and Peter hanging out 8/30/06.

Chris Carithers topping out on a fine November day, 11/22/02.

Chris Carithers topping out on a fine November day...

Marga Powell stretching to clip the pin near the start of the first pitch.

Marga Powell stretching to clip the pin near the s...

Marga Powell at the overhang on the first pitch.

Marga Powell at the overhang on the first pitch.

Mark Pierson nears the P4 belay. Nov 4, 2006. Photo by John Fernandez.

Mark Pierson nears the P4 belay. Nov 4, 2006. Phot...

Mike Morley exiting the P4 traverse onto easier ground. Photo by John Fernandez.

Mike Morley exiting the P4 traverse onto easier gr...

Malcom-Kor 9000 enjoys the view from the top of P4.

Malcom-Kor 9000 enjoys the view from the top of P4...

Yellow Spur P1 bulge

Yellow Spur P1 bulge

Looking down from above the 5.10 variation near the end of Yellow Spur

Looking down from above the 5.10 variation near th...

Anthony Yenason on the fourth pitch dihedral of Yellow Spur.

Anthony Yenason on the fourth pitch dihedral of Ye...

Self-portrait

Self-portrait

Tom on the spur's dramatic last pitch.

Tom on the spur's dramatic last pitch.

Tom on the spur's dramatic last pitch.

Tom on the spur's dramatic last pitch.

The Yellow Spur as seen from the top of Long John Wall (West Ridge) on a late afternoon in February.

BETA PHOTO: The Yellow Spur as seen from the top of Long John ...

Pulling the roof on P1. Unknown climber.

Pulling the roof on P1. Unknown climber.

Unknown climbers on Yellow Spur. Photo taken from the base of Italian Arête.

Unknown climbers on Yellow Spur. Photo taken from ...

Looking down from the "small, exposed belay ledge" before the crux bolt ladder pitch.

Looking down from the "small, exposed belay ledge"...


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By Charles Vernon
From: Tucson AZ
Jan 1, 2001

A quick pitch-by-pitch account (I have to, its my favorite route in the canyon...). Skip to the end if you want beta for a new descent that is infinitely preferable to the old methods. To get to the route, hike up under the Redgarden Wall up past the ladder and beyond Tower One (the Yellow Spur itself), and find a ledge leading back to the right shortly thereafter. Scramble onto it and arrive shortly at some caked-on chalk and pin scars below a break in a long roof band. This was Kors original start; it is 5.10 and protects with tricky small stopper placements. P1-a much easier start ascends a short dihedral 20 ft. to the right. Cut back left, then climb further up huge holds over the exciting roof, and head right to a tree belay-5.9 (about 30 ft. of elevation gain) P2-go up left, then up a fantastic dihedral, with face moves at the end, to another tree, 5.8 P3-head up cracks and corners to a rotten band; continue over a scary bulge and another crack to a beautiful, exposed ledge, also 5.8. P4-fifteen feet right of the belay, ascend a large, moderate dihedral. Hand traverse right, avoiding a huge overhang, and climb another 5.8 corner up and then right to a small, exposed stance. P5-climb straight up, make a delicate step right into a thin crack (with several pitons) and ascend that (the crux) to a scary detached flake. Make a beautiful ascending 5.7 traverse up left to lower angle terrain and a belay on the arete, or climb straight up past bolts at 5.10 and reach the same belay. P6-head up the spectacular 5.6 arete to the summit of Tower One.

Descent: the best (after carefully traversing off north) is to head down the gully to the east (the beginning of the East Slabs Descent) to some trees at the top of Ruper. Then, turn back west and scramble up into a notch. Head down into it and find some new bolts. The rappel from here takes all the rope and ends precariously on a tiny ledge near the top of the Upper Ramp. Scramble to the top, and youll find the tree for the Vertigo raps (one double or two single rope raps), which get you right back to the ledge at the base of the climb. This descent is about 1000 times better than the traditional rappel, and several hundred times less annoying than going all the way down the East Slabs, if youve left anything at the base of the climb.

By Charles Vernon
From: Tucson AZ
Jan 1, 2001

The one time I combined 2 and 3, I had 2 pieces in P2, one in the next dihedral, and I was getting really nasty drag going over that spooky little roof entering the third dihedral...but Ill take your word for it, George, mainly because from reading Bills TRs you all seem to be the masters (at least among us mortals) of pitch-combining. I have to wonder if you just have a really high tolerance level, though... I mainly put 4&5 together in my description so that if a party is swapping leads, neither will get a lemon with Rossiters P4. Be sure to use a long sling near the end of P5, or watch your pro tinkle down the rock. Ive never put the last 2 together, but that sounds like the ultimate pitch in Eldo (especially with the Robbins traverse)!

By Anonymous Coward
Jan 1, 2001

Actually, if you want to get really nutty about combining pitches on this route, you can link the first pitch with the second. The best way to do this is to do the direct 5.10b/c start and place gear above the big roof. Now, run it out over easy ground back right and up to the tree - make sure to pass the tree on the LEFT side, and DON'T clip the belay there. Traverse out to the left to the start of the difficulties on the second pitch, and place gear there. Your rope will now almost drop in a straight line to the ground. Now, would I recommend this? Not really. I only used it once when I simul-climbed the entire route (with an extremely good climber as the second).

By George Bell
From: Boulder, CO
Jan 1, 2001

Great route, I do it at least once a year! You can combine many of the pitches if you want to zoom up the route (not recommended for your first time). Pitch 1 is short but impossible to combine due to its zig-zag nature. But after that, even with a 50m rope, you can combine 2&3, 4&5, 6&7 to make the whole climb a 4 pitch route! These pitch numbers refer to those in Rossiters guide, note that in Charles description he has already combined 4&5. You must be careful with your pro when you combine some of these or you will get massive rope drag, so do it the traditional way uthe first time.

By Charles Vernon
From: Tucson AZ
Jan 1, 2001

A further note of caution for the descent: if your 50m rope is cut a little short, it will end about 5 ft. above the ledge I mention. You can get off there, in a fairly secure chimney, or get off on the ledge just above, and downclimb easily but with a very dangerous fall potential. If with a beginner, the best thing will be to lower him/her first, and then rappel yourself. Excercise extreme caution! I still feel this is many, many times better than the other descents from Ruper/Tower One/Lumpe Tower area.

By Warren Teissier
Jul 21, 2001

What a great route.

A couple of comments: Combined pitch 4 and 5 as suggested and had a rope drag nightmare after clearing the roof. Next time I will move the belay to the base of the 5.4 dihedral (20 feet to the right) and put an extra long sling before starting the roof traverse.

The second bolt on the 10C variation, pitch before last, is about 1/4" out of the wall and bent. Someone took a screamer on this baby. If I had to bet, I'd give it less than 50% chance that it'll hold another fall. Proceed with caution.

By Charles Vernon
From: Tucson AZ
Jul 23, 2001

The second bolt may be bent, but you've got a great modern bolt about 3 feet below it and another 3 feet above it! You'd have to do something real stupid to take anything more than a hang on the bent one, and even a hang would be pretty ridiculous. The crux doesn't start until you clip bolt #3 anyhow.

By Warren Teissier
Aug 7, 2001

Charles, that being said, someone did take a pretty good fall to yank and bend that bolt.

I certainly hope it didn't bend like that on a simple hang.

So for those who WILL do something pretty stupid beware of the second bolt.

By Charles Vernon
From: Tucson AZ
Aug 7, 2001

My guess is someone clipped this bolt (before the other two were replaced), then whipped off the Robbins traverse, or maybe somebody tried to remove it.

Point is, there are a lot of dangerous pitches that guidebooks neglect to mention--but this isn't one of them--it's "sewn" up! If that 1/4 in. didn't exist, it would still be considered closely bolted. Even if you fell and it pulled (an extremely unlikely scenario), the next modern bolt 3 ft. lower would hold. Why scare people away from safe, classic climbing? There are easily a dozen or more popular routes elsewhere in Eldo that are really worth warning people about.

By Anonymous Coward
Dec 19, 2001

Aging lawyer Michael Gilbert soloed it in 17 minutes (bottom to top).

By justin dubois
From: Estes Park
Jan 14, 2002

Not sure if anyone else stated this. On the crux pitch of the Spur, before you clip the first bolt, there is a death flake that is totally detached. You basically have to pull and stand on this thing, too. It's not loose looking from below either, so just pull lightly.!!!!

By Chris Cavallaro
Apr 22, 2002

Anyone ever place a BIG cam on the P5 traverse? how big?

By Warren Teissier
Apr 22, 2002

I've placed a #3 Camalot at the exit of the crack as backup to the fixed Bong. But you can also place a bomber small piece somewhere in the middle of the traverse (orange or red Alien / #1 Camalot?) on a small crack above the large traverse crack.

I felt the crux is the exit of the roof at the end of the traverse, not the traverse itself. Place a LONG runner on the piece BEFORE you start the traverse or rope drag will kill you on the thin 8+ corner above the traverse....

Have fun, WT

By Joe Keyser
May 20, 2002

I did this route for my first time yesterday. WOW! What a pretty climb. There are some great lie-backs, and stems. We linked it into 4 pitches to save time. On the traverse before the crux pitch, I didnt use any big gear, and found the fixed pro to be sufficient. However, I did put a .75 cam about half way through it in a crack inside the wide crack... My partner lead the crux bolt ladder, and I found that part to be pretty stiff, but its well bolted. The loose flake mentioned is pretty hard to avoid, but it seemed to be wedged in there pretty good, so, definately just tread lightly on there. Cant say enough good stuff about this one...

By Alex Hearn
Jun 8, 2002

Interesting to see the comments about the loose flake above...guess we won't have to worry about that anymore...

By Warren Teissier
Jun 10, 2002

Actually, I asked Cole Stanley whether his accident had accured at the Death Flake mentioned as nauseum on this page.

His accident occured lower on the wall, so we DO STILL need to be careful wich the said death flake...

WT

By Cole Stanley
Jun 12, 2002

Yes, the death flake is still there. As mentioned, I did have an accident on 5/26/02 following the easy traverse on P4 that sent me upside-down on a pendulum for about a 20-foot whipper. First time on the route, started with the direct start and they were great. Pieced together from what people have told me and what I remember, this is what I believed happened:

Right off the belay I found a finger crack with my left hand and reached about 3 feet to the right to a huge jug and stepped across. As soon as I did that I heard the sound of cracking sandstone and began to fall backwards. Either the rock, which from others I hear was the size of half a car, fulcrumed off my left middle finger and severed it or, as I fell with the newly separated boulder, my body weight pulled off the finger. I will never know. I hit back first and smacked my head pretty good; I was wearing a helmet which certainly saved further injury. After righting myself and finding my finger attached by a thread and in the palm of my hand, I had my partner, Pat Sullivan, lower me to the ledge at the top of pitch 2 where Mike Robertson and Julie Garrison lowered me to the ground. I don't know how but thankfully no one on the ground was hurt by the rock fall. I was very lucky and happy to only sever a finger (which was re-attached and doing fine, ugly but fine), as I should have lost a lot more. Out of the 4 people on the route at the time I was the only one wearing a helmet, glad it was me and not them.

Thanks to all those who helped, the calls, the first aid, the aspirin, the shirts and the short-rope to the waiting ambulance, you know who you are, thank you.

Be Careful

ccs

By Adam Hicks`
Jul 28, 2002

Wondering if anyone could inform me of any theories on removing the death flake from the Yellow Spur. While I do appreciate the expressive natural lay of things, it seems to me that the chances for it coming off and causing serious injuring or killing a climber (or entire party) are great enough that at least some ideas should be passed around. e-mail thoughts: climbhoser@yahoo.com

By Anonymous Coward
Jul 28, 2002

Put a bolt in the back of the flake with a hanger. Attach a chain. place a bolt in the wall that would keep the chain very close to taught. If the flake starts to go, the chain will keep it in place. hehehhhehhh. lol or lots of glue.... lol!

-Dont mess with the flake. Eventually it will fall. It may kill somebody. That sux.

By Anonymous Coward
Jul 30, 2002

I always thought that an Eldo cleanup day could yield ample opportunity to flag off the area around the base so someone could pry the damn thing off. Of course, like Adam, I do appreciate the 'natural lay of things' and wouldn't want to upset anyone's aesthetic valus, so it will remain argued without passion from this end.

By Guy Humphrey
From: Fort Collins CO
Jul 30, 2002
rating: 5.10c

Removing this "death" flake will change the character of the direct finish. It would most likely increase the difficulty of the route by a couple letter grades. If you don't feel comfortable climbing near this flake, don't climb the Yellow Spur.

By George Bell
From: Boulder, CO
Jul 30, 2002

I agree with Guy. Since you have to STAND atop this flake to do the direct finish, it can't be that close to going. Just don't pull out on it with all your strength, pull down. Last time I was up there it just wobbles slightly and still seems well seated. It also does not threaten the lower section of the route due to the rightward traverses, although it could still make a hell of a mess - it must weigh 500 lbs. To make it idiot proof one could perhaps put a cable around it to keep it from falling outward.

By Charles Vernon
From: Tucson AZ
Jul 30, 2002

Leave the flake be!! If you are really scared, climb around it--I've done the direct finish at least two times without touching the flake, whether pulling on it or standing on it. There are many such flakes and blocks that could be trundled in Eldo, but unless they are truly right on the verge of popping, we should leave them in place--climbing softly at times should be part of the game.

By Fred Vanden Bergh
Aug 1, 2002

I guess I'll chime in with my opinion, for what its worth. I agree with George, Guy and Charles. Climbing -- especially classic, trad routes, but in general -- is more than just the movement over the rock. It is the entire experience; dangerous, beautiful, scary, challenging, rewarding. I think the rock/route should be allowed to evolve naturally. There is a place for pulling off loose rock (I enjoy climbing at Rifle), but I don't think this is it.

I did this route about 2 weeks ago with my girlfriend, she led the "flakey" pitch, and neither of us felt the flake was overly concerning. Climb delicately.

By Adam Hicks`
Aug 3, 2002

I tended to feel similarly, and was apprehensive about posting the idea of removing it at all, but it seemed worth while just to seek some thoughts on it. Thanks for keeping Eldo a wonderful place, guys. Glad to be climbing around quality minds.peace

By Jason Carter
From: Lakewood
Aug 23, 2002

2 things -

- The Flake - the earliest description I could find of the yellow spur dates back to 1980 from Pat Ament's Eldo guidebook as follows "lead six will air out your knickers and climbs straight up a vertical, yellow wall past a loose flake"

IMHO - there are a lot of hollow, loose flakes in Eldo - if it seems sketchy, don't yard on it - this flake in particular has been known for at least 22 years, probably longer, everyone knows it's there - tread lightly - Eldo is not a sport park and does not need to be cleaned like one

- The Descent - (brief edit to Charles's contribution)

from the top of the route hand traverse north into the gully, head down the gully to the east, veer right to some trees at the top of Ruper, turn back west from Ruper and follow the ramp up into a notch, keep heading west through the notch, head down the west side and find some new bolts on your left, rap with one 60m rope to a dirt patch on the ground, this will use all your rope, make sure the ends are even, cross the gully and scramble up the fin, scramble down some steps and locate the tree for the Vertigo raps on your left, there are many multi colored slings on this tree, it should be obvious, one single 60m rap will take you over the roof to a two bolt chained anchor, another will get you to the ledge, one double rope rap will get you to the ledge

By Parni
Sep 3, 2002

Great climb!!!Being from the East Coast (VA), it was it was a lot better than the stuff Im use to! I like the balance'y move on the Spur-- Amazing moves! Makes me think I should stop visiting CO and just move there.

By Anonymous Coward
Sep 5, 2002

We climbed this recently, and looked at, but didn't touch the P5 death flake. I would suggest steering clear of that sucker. The flake has an aura about it these days. Its there, it has historical significance, like a mile marker, but nobody knows wheather to use it, or not, for fear that they will be the one to...dislodge it. The Spur is such a beautiful climb, but it could use a little maintenance. Not the removal of the flake or any other stone or hardware. But the chaulk! The 5.10 start looks like someone dumped a bag of flour off the top of the ledge. Wouldn't it be cool if the park had a portable high pressure cleaning system for the rock routes. Where they rappel down these classics and pressure wash the slippery caked chalk off once in awhile. I'd pay a few extra bucks for that. No, I don't use drugs...anymore.

By Anonymous Coward
Oct 2, 2002

http://www.naclassics.com/climbs/yellowsp/cs_802.pdf

Nice trip report. Mr Stanley is a very lucky guy.

By Greg B. Hill
Mar 3, 2003

Another stupid near-death story - Once upon a time I climbed this with 2 others. Pretty high up on the route (I don't remember exactly where, but it's the last belay from decent sized ledges), I was in 3rd position and it being a hot summer day and a long wait, I fell asleep on the ledge. In the meantime, the 2nd person (that was not terribly experienced) took off on follow. I woke up, stretched, and realized that I was no longer clipped into the belay and was attached to the rock only by the rope pulled up to belay me with.

By Ivan Rezucha
Mar 9, 2003

ANOTHER VARIATION TO START:Yesterday, my partner Luke Clarke and I climbed a nice variation to the start of Yellow Spur. About 6 feet left of the regular start, climb the face just left of a shallow right racing corner. The moves off the ground are the crux and go at about 9+ if you can reach the first big hold. The moves are well protected by a yellow Alien. The gear above, up to the roof, is good. This start is more straightforward than the regular start and has much better pro and much less rope drag. The only caveat is that you need to be able to reach that first hold. If you can't, it might be about 11a. There are some half-joint holds lower down, but it's overhanging off the ground with not much for your feet.

By Shane Zentner
From: Colorado
May 5, 2003

I climbed The Yellow Spur for the first time this weekend. Yes, the sketchy flake is still there waiting to pop off. Indeed, it sounded a bit hollow. Not knowing exactly where the route went from the flake, I climbed the 5.10a(c) variation and made an awkward move to the right at a piton. A fun climb with good exposure.

By Ivan Rezucha
Jun 9, 2003

Linking pitches: See above for linking pitches 1&2.

On Sunday I self-belayed this with a 70m rope and linked pitches 1-3 and 4-6, finishing with a short pitch to the top. When self-belaying, rope drag is not an issue, but I think linking pitches 1-3 would be reasonable even if you're leading if done as follows:

Either do the 10b start or do the 9+ variation and back clean until you get to the first pin below the roof (second can do the 10b start). Then, as described above, run it out to the left of the tree to the base of the dihedral on P2 (possibly placing a piece before reaching the dihedral and then backcleaning it). When you traverse right out of the dihedral run it out until you reach the belay at the end of P2. Keep going straight up to the belay on P3. Place gear and hike right to a belay just left of the dihedral on P3.

Linking pitches 4-6 on the lead is probably not a good idea due to rope drag and communication difficulty. Since a 70m rope won't reach to the top in 2 pitches anyway (I'm pretty sure), link pitches 4 and 5, then link pitch 6 via the bolt ladder and pitch 7.

Descending via the Dirty Deed gully to the north and then down the West Chimney goes in 3 easy rappels with a 70m. But see elsewhere for a discussion where some people discourage using this descent due to rockfall danger.

By Anonymous Coward
Aug 14, 2003

Beware the chalked up sucker holds on the wall immediately above the "scary detached flake (tm)." If you are baffled, feel around - there are better holds than those that may not be chalked. Thin, mind you. But better.

By Joe Collins
Sep 2, 2003

Time for a little lesson in crag manners. We got up pretty early yesterday and headed up to do the Yellow Spur. While racking up at the base a party of two arrives, clearly unhappy that they had to wait for us to start.

'Are you guys gonna move pretty fast?', one asks, hoping that we'll allow these Potter-esque speed demons to go first. 'We'll be fine,' I reply. While I led the first pitch, my partner is forced to listen to numerous, 'we should have gotten up 5 minutes earlier,' comments, as if we're preventing them from their record breaking speed ascent of the Spur. My partner is slow to warm-up sometimes, and she struggled through the crux of the first pitch, clearly upset due to the pressure and snickers from below. As I linked pitches 2+3, their leader nears the first belay and proceeds to make gestures to his belayer, as if to say, 'I can't help that I'm waiting... these gumbies are holding me up,' while my partner watches from no more than 15 feet away.

Anyway, by the time we rack up at the base of the pin ladder pitch, their leader has just left the belay tree at the TOP OF PITCH 2! In fact, we had enough time to hang out on top, do the Chockstone/Vertigo rappels, eat lunch, get thwarted by the first crux of Parting Shot, and lead Green Spur by the time these clowns were halfway down the Dirty Deed rappels.

So folks, know the rules of the game. If you want to be first on the most classic 5.9 in the state, on a holiday weekend, then you'd better get up early. If you're going to pass a party, and at the base of the climb no less, then you'd better be sure that you're way, way faster. My general rule for letting parties pass is to show me the proof: either be someone who I know by reputation is a fast climber, or be clearly held up by my party for multiple consecutive pitches.

If the guys who we encountered at the base read this, then you should be ashamed and embarrassed by your behavior, especially in light of your subsequent crawl to the top of the Spur.

By Ken Leiden
From: Boulder, CO
Sep 3, 2003

Just curious if anyone has tried combining pitches 1 & 2? If you did the direct start and climbed left of the tree at the 1st belay, it seems the rope would be running pretty straight and might be less rope drag than combining pitches 2 & 3.

By Chris Cavallaro
Sep 3, 2003

I always combine the 1st two pitches. I either do the direct start, or do the variation slightly left of the 5.9 start (mentioned above.) This allows you to climb the 3rd pitch and walk along the ledge and setup a better belay for the 4th pitch.

By steve dieckhoff
Sep 3, 2003

Ken, just as you suspect - combining the 1st and 2nd pitches is a good link amd doesn't cause rope drag.....but the area before and after the tree is more 'sporty' for both the leader and the second if you skip or skimp on protection there. Linking these pitches is a classic "double-rope" situation.

Since the first pitch is pretty challenging for some people to even follow a semi-hanging belay immediately after the bulge might be considered. It allows you to see and communicate with the second as well as saving rope abrasion in the event of a fall.

By Anonymous Coward
Sep 4, 2003

Hey Joe Collins -

Thanks for your speedy ascent of the spur, you were indeed, like you claimed, fast. In fact, until my friend checked this site, I didn't even think twice about our encounter with you on Monday. Linking the 2nd and 3rd pitches is what did the trick. And in order to support that move, we didn't link the 1st and 2nd, or the second and third, so as to let you enjoy the day with your lady and to put some space between our two groups. We did each pitch individualy and took our time.

As for snickers and comments... they weren't there. At least, not from our end. Good luck with yourself though, keep climbing, and in the future say what's on your mind instead of spewing all over a site devoted to higher pursuits.

Cheers.

By Ivan Rezucha
Sep 4, 2003

Regarding linking of pitches 1/2/3...

Earlier this year I self-belayed this with a 70m rope and linked pitches 1, 2, AND 3, including moving right to belay below the easy P4 dihedral. I started using the variation just left of the regular start. I then linked pitches 4/5/6 via the bolt ladder and belayed on the slab above. A short pitch from there to the top.

Many of you know this, but with self-belaying, the rope does not move, so rope drag isn't an issue. Still, I think linking 1/2/3 is feasible on the lead with a 70m rope with some judicious back cleaning and skipping of gear at the top of P1 and at the moves right and back left on P2.

Then link P4 and P5, and then link P6 and P7 to the top.

By Bill Wright
Sep 5, 2003

Joe, A.C.,

As one who enjoys moving fast sometimes and has probably behaved badly in the past behind a slower team, I have some, probably obvious, comments on this situation. First, yes, if you want to be on the most popular route on a weekend, you better get up EARLY. I frequently climb in Eldo on weekday mornings, and you don't even need to be there that early to be first on any route. 6:30 a.m. will do this time of year. Of course, that only gives you first dibs on your first route, so there can still be the problem of getting behind a slower party. Weekends are tougher, of course.

Around the Boulder area, I just assume anyone I meet in Eldo is a better and faster climber than me. Everyone here seems to be so good. I usually do make my intentions known if I'm out for a speed climb and ask nicely if I can go in front, if the team hasn't already started and I KNOW I can blast by. I never do this on a route that I don't KNOW I'll be fast. I think this is okay even with my assumption that they are better and faster because they might not be out for speed and want a more casual pace. If I can get by them in 5-10 minutes, then everyone has a more enjoyable climb.

There are many valid reasons for the party to not want to let me pass, though. In that situation, I always respect their choice. They were there first and have the right to the route. I might try to do another route that is nearby and similar in difficulty, but that isn't always an option. Sometimes, you just have to decide to give up the speed ascent and just take things slower.

I also agree with Joe that if I'm going to pass a party that has already started, I need to show them some proof that I won't be a problem for them. Whenever I do this, I try to simul-climb past the team to limit their wait and give them some confidence that we'll indeed get by quickly. I might follow the second up a pitch so that I can be ready to go by if they say it is okay, but I never follow too closely and always communicate BEFORE you get right up behind them.

Finally, you always want to be overly nice in such a situation. I always defer to them, thank them profusely, acknowledge that what I'm doing is a bit goofy, but fun, at least for me. I've had great luck with this approach. Climbers in general seem really cool and really nice. They don't want to get in anyone's way if it doesn't cost them much and doesn't sacrifice their safety.

I once was doing a goofy speed climb of the Yellow Spur and these cool guys let me led right over their rope on the crux pitch. I asked the belayer first and he was cool with it. Then we waited a bit for the leader to reach the belay and asked him. Everyone was cool with it. If not, I'd just have abandoned the speed ascent with no hard feelings at all. Once the speed climb is off, I do what A.C. did here. I back way off and give the team room to enjoy the climb without the pressure of having someone right on them.

Bill

P.S. Check out the photo of Aaron Ralston (one arm) taken by Malcom Daly (one leg) climbing the Yellow Spur!!?? Talk about inspirational! If I can speed climbing up a route and encountered these two guys, I'd shut it down completely and see if they'd let me tag along and chat with them. A more likely scenario is that they'd be speed climbing by me, though!

By Ernie Port
From: Boulder, Colorado
Sep 5, 2003

I was told Malcolm and Aron did Icarus together, not the complete Spur...

By Joe Collins
Sep 8, 2003

AC-

this is more appropriate for a private email, but since you've posted as AC, I'll have to respond here.

You're memory of the incident is off. I never claimed I was fast... and since when is a 3+ hour ascent of the Spur fast? I simply said we'll be fine. However, I'll stand by my partner's version of events regarding the comments and gestures which I mentioned in my previous comment. She was certainly upset by the attitude she perceived from one of you guys in particular. Maybe you're speaking for yourself and not for your partner?

As for your advice of not spewing and speaking my mind... thanks for the therapy consultation, but I didn't encounter you again that day. Perhaps you could take your own advice to heart and speak your mind without the security of anonymity.

By Anonymous Coward
Sep 8, 2003

...Good beta for the Yellow Spur is...have a back up plan...if you don't want to climb behind someone, climb something else... Yes, you should have turned up 5 minutes earlier ....

By Ken Heiser
From: Boulder, CO
Sep 28, 2003
rating: 5.10a

My climbing partner Dave and I had a superb eperience on this route today. We did the above mentioned "6 feet left of the regular start face/seam" I thoroughly enjoyed this and found it to be bold and bouldery but you can see the good piece from the ground. This made this pitch really fun and indead it striaghtens the rope out. I led 2 and 3 as one pitch which worked great and then did the rest as guidebood description on the rest as we caught up to people.

In doing the direct finish I reflected on the flake kind of being a sentimental favorite of mine. It looks and feels about the same as it did in 1979 when I started climbing. I stood on it today to check it out and it is still there :)

Overall, fabulous, aesthetic, exposed, fairly consistent fun to climb route. Took us 4.5 hours.

By Ken Heiser
From: Boulder, CO
Sep 28, 2003
rating: 5.10a

My vote is to not remove the flake.

By David Conlin
Oct 9, 2003
rating: 5.10b

Classic!

Don't miss the direct finish--well protected, great exposure. I'd go with 10b, although the single-move nature makes this debatable.

Suggested link-up: DOUBLE SPUR. One person leads "block" of entire Yellow Spur, rap descent, second then leads "block" of entire Green Spur. Double your pleasure, double classic, ... double Spur.

By Ernie Port
From: Boulder, Colorado
Oct 10, 2003

A friend climbed this last weekend and said she had wrong beta and didn't quite get P1 right first try. I climbed YS yesterday again leading P1 and here's my beta for first pitch... Clip the pin below the lip/roof, reach up and grab the bomber lip, step up with the right foot to a decent, yet awkward back leaning stance, stem left foot higher below upper left pin, grab a corner with left hand near that upper left pin shifting weight left, then step right foot up onto lip, shifting right hand for a high seam or palm, and shift weight back right moving up. Kinda of a back and forth stem sequence. Awkward on first try, this move IMO is not too bad for (9), once wired...In short, work that left corner, and avoid climbing straight up over the lip...

By William McGehee
From: Choctaw, OK
Oct 13, 2003

For first-attempters:

One: Girth hitch the pin below the roof on the first pitch. Clipping it will cross load your biner and will require you to retire it if you whip.

Two: If you send the roof and start the traverse right up to the dead tree, protect your traverse as well as possible. This will keep your second from having a heart attack when he/she gets to the roof and has trouble.......

Three: Patrick is correct in saying the .10a variation is a bit sandbagged, but do it anyway. Two nice clings on the crimpers will get you to the third bolt (one above the spinning 'relic' of sorts) and from there it's a cakewalk. I call it the Boulder Problem in the sky...

And do the chutes rappel. My partner and I did it at 9pm last night and found everything fairly easily with no headlamps. Just traverse north on the Knife-blade ridge to the notch and move down 5' or so to the west to find the first set of slings. Three rappels gets you to the huge ledge. Unrope and walk/scramble north awhile to find the 165' rap chains. Hit the ground at 9:25 to see the rescue attempt in progress. Be careful out there, and thank you to all the RMS&R volunteers out there. You make a big difference even to those you don't have to drag out!~Wm

By Ken Heiser
From: Boulder, CO
Oct 28, 2003
rating: 5.10a

Did this route again this past weekend (10/26) with a friend just because I love it so much :-)I did the first pitch by itself, then did 2 & 3 together, 4 & 5 together, and then did the top crux pitch and the arete pitch together.It was the first time doing the route and 4 pitches and I absolutely loved it!!!!!!No rope drag and you get to some nice long leads in.Have fun!! :)

By jeff sallen
Oct 29, 2003
rating: 5.9

Now I know by some Eldo climbers standards, the Yellow Spur is not a difficult route. However it was my goal to feel confident to lead this amazing route buy the end of the 2003 summer. I must say that the route holds up to its status of being a classic Eldo climb. I would tell a future leader that they should be confident on 9 before they hop on this route, the first pitch is a bit crimpy when coming around the corner, and then the overhang is a bit intimidating. I ended up airing out the over hang, buy hanging from my hands, and then throwing a heal over the lip...felt like a V2 boulder problem. when setting a belay at the first tree. Make sure to set a directional for your second. The most rewarding pitch was by far the Layton Kor piton ladder. That airy and exposed pitch was just breath taking. the 6s arette is not to shabby either. Brian, thanks for another day for the books. Next time we're hitting up the green.

Have fun, and enjoy this amazing Eldo classic.

By Art Veenendaal
Jan 31, 2004

DESCENT: The notch that Charles, et.al., refer to for the Chockstone Chimney rappel is more like a huge, deep cleft...if you look for a notch like the size of the one for the belay on the last pitch of the YS, you'll never find it (well not easily). This rap is by far the best way down.

By Edward Jenner
Apr 1, 2004

It's amazing to me that the classic Eldo moderate is almost sport-climb like. It has so much fixed gear, especially on the cruxes, that you are never trying to place gear before or while pulling a 9 move. In addition the .10a/b/c variation felt like a full-on sport section for a few feet (apart from the 10a rating, if you call it 10a). Now I'm not saying this isn't a great climb and some might suggest that the mix of bolts, pins and gear is in fact 'classic Eldo'. I've only climbed this once, and felt a great sense of achievement at the time, but in retrospect, the number of pins on the route left me feeling like I had been slightly cheated out of something really special.

At the moment, I may get back on Yellow Spur since it is a good climb, but I am as likely to go try something I haven't done yet. If someone were to remove the pins, especially on the pin-ladder pitch, I would be rushing back to try it again. I seem to remember opportunities for decent pro (RP's, micro cams, some larger cams) without the pins. Is this not the case? Would it even be possible to remove the pins? Frankly, I'm surprised they are still there in all their ugly, mangled glory.

By ac
Apr 1, 2004

The pins are just fine.

By Chad Stebbins
Apr 1, 2004

The pins are indeed just fine, but should not be replaced WHEN they fall out. My unsolicited $0.02.

By Anonymous Coward
Jun 7, 2004

I find the belay below the pin ladder entirely inadequate. Well there is room for pro, it must all be placed behind suspect rock. A fall onto the belay has the possibility of rock failure and total anchor failure. There is very solid rock less than 2 feet away to the right. Perhaps someone should place two beefy bolts to strengthen the anchor. These could or course be backed up by the natural pro.

By msamet
Jun 7, 2004

I hate to say it, as I'm all for good belays, etc., but I disagree with the AC's comments about the belay below the crux pitch on Yellow Spur. The rock might have a bit of that hollow Eldo ring to it, but it's cemented in, IMO, and you can load about half your rack into it. I think it would be a real bummer to see belay bolts pop up out right, as it would radically alter the character of the route.

By Anonymous Coward
Jun 7, 2004

"Perhaps someone should place two beefy bolts to strengthen the anchor."

You bet, AC. We Anchor Faries will get right on that.

Or better yet, fill out a new anchor proposal with the FHRC yourself.

Or better yet still, don't waste your time. That's a solid belay and it'll never happen.

By Darin Lang
Jun 8, 2004

The belay below the pin ladder always seemed bomber to me. The AC above must be trolling.

By Ken Heiser
From: Boulder, CO
Jul 6, 2004
rating: 5.10a

The above comment on adding belay bolts for the top crux is absurd. The belay is very solid and excellent by any standard.P.S.You could always go down in the crack some from the standard belay and put in 8 or 10 pieces so you are alittle more ccomfortable ;-)

I had a thought on fixed pro though; the first pitch direct 10 start used to have a fixed pin up until about the mid 90's. Any chance of getting that replaced?

By Tonya Riggs
From: Boulder, CO
Jul 26, 2004

After numerous tries, I finally figured out how to pull the overhang on P1. This used to pump me out and make me sad. The key is to get your feet high by grabbing an undercling with the left hand and laying it back a bit. This enabled me to back step with my right foot and then stand up and grab great holds near the pin. There is one other key....keep moving...the slightest hesitation can cause a flash pump.

By Alpha Male 275
Aug 18, 2004
rating: 5.10b

Direct start, direct finish, link all the pitches.

By Tevis Blom
From: Boulder
Sep 11, 2004

We found a tri-cam placement for the opening moves on the direct start. There is a disintegrating pocket that will hold the small pink tri-cam. It will only protect you for the first few moves though, until you get to some cam placements higher up. I bounce tested the placement (200 lbs.) and it held, although a lead fall would probably blow it. Anyway, the direct start is much cooler than the traverse in, doesn't feel much harder, and is like a boulder problem until you get a few pieces in. I though the hardest part was the piton ladder, very sustained and thin. I thought the bolted 10a-10c whatever was easier and more straightforward(and bolted) I didn't want to test out the pitons at all. probably my proudest ascent in eldo. the raps went easily and take you almost directly back to where you started.

By Edward Jenner
Apr 15, 2005

Damn, I couldn't disagree more. The direct start is definitely a lot harder and scarier than the travese in.Pro is there, but much pumpier to place than you might expect from the ground.

The piton latter is quite straightforward, perhaps a bit ballancey - last time I did it the wind was blowing and that made it a bit more interesting.

The top is 10a-10c - flew off it last time - nice airy fall onto the pin (I had quite a bit of slack out), highly recommended lob.

By Ivan Rezucha
Apr 15, 2005

Direct start? There are two "direct" starts. The original start is further left and leads directly to the pin at the roof. I TR'd this recently for the first time, and thought it was pretty desperate. There's some gear at first, but higher up, it's really insecure and would be hard to protect, with a ground fall possible.

Further right and just left of the inside corner of the regular start is the other "direct" start. This is, in my opinion, by far the best way to start the climb. Hardest move is right off the ground with toproped protection. You can backclean to straighten the rope, and your second can either risk a swing or climb the original direct start.

By Cody Munger
From: Carson City, NV
May 31, 2005
rating: 5.9+

My only recommendation is to bring draws for the piton ladder. I uh, forgot my 6 draws at the car. Got up to that pitch and saw 9 pins to be clipped and had the "oh, no" moment. Had to manufacture some draws out of wire stoppers. Also had to reach down and steal biners off lower clips. Luckily, I was able to improvise my way though this pitch.

By Dave Holliday
From: Louisville, CO
Sep 2, 2005

Not much to add except that this is one of the best routes I've done. Something interesting on every pitch. I led the crux pitch for the first time. I had intended to do the traverse after the piton ladder but it looked a little sketchy so I instead did the bolted variation. I thought that was 10b. Where do people belay after doing that variation? Or is it normal to link the last two pitches and continue to the top? I made my way back to the arete but perhaps I was above the optimal place to belay right on the arete so I continued to the top.

By Kirk Woerner
Oct 9, 2005

"The belay below the pin ladder always seemed bomber to me."

I just did this (finally) for the first time. I also noticed the belay just below the crux pitch had slightly suspect rock. I think it's because we belayed too high. We started the the crux pitch by immediatly traversing hard right.

You can get a lot of gear there, but it's all based on one, fitted block about two feet by three feet that you sit on. It's unclear what is happening with it because it's fitted very well but on a slant such that if it's NOT cemented, it could slide out catastrophically.

That being said, there IS a good belay lower down, just after turning the 5.8 lip is a sloping ledge with gear at the top. This is probably a better belay spot then continuing up.