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By Jon Marek
Jan 11, 2012
gossamer

+1 for Carhartt work pants, seriously rugged.


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By Jake Jones
From The Eastern Flatlands
Jan 11, 2012
Me and the offspring walking back to the car after a day of cragging.

rogerbenton wrote:
david, wtf? please tell me you don't have a huge cache of fatty images on your computer at the ready. please.


Uuhhh... what's wrong with that?


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By Peter Franzen
Administrator
From Phoenix, AZ
Jan 11, 2012
Belay

Jon Marek wrote:
+1 for Carhartt work pants, seriously rugged.

As long as it is dry Carhartts make for awesome climbing pants. You can get some amazing friction from them on kneebars and scums. I'm on my second pair in 10 years; the damn things last forever.

I hate stereotypes as much as the next guy, but I'd be lying if I said that I haven't noticed that anyone who looks like they just walked out of an REI catalog is more likely to be a gumby than not.

That said: If you can afford awesome top-of-the-line gear then go for it. I prefer be outfitted in Arc'teryx and Patagonia instead of having to scrounge through the bargain bins at a thrift store.


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By Peter Stokes
From Them Thar Hills
Jan 11, 2012
Wall Street, Moab, UT

Barney Smith wrote:
With the exception of the few actually sponsored climbers who get their gear for free, I have found that the trend in people who wear name brand "climbing" clothing is that the more of it you wear, the more of a nooby beginner you really are.


When you judge another, you do not define them, you define yourself.

I know lots of people who climb hard, and the clothing they wear runs the complete spectrum from dumpster stuff to real nice. None of them really seem to care about the clothing as much as whether someone is cool to spend time with, and if they're a safe partner.

Carhartts have done pretty well by me, but there are times when something cooler and more flexible works better. Prana has some nice items, but the whole China production thing more or less keeps me with Verve and Gramicci. If I find it at the Salvation Army, though, all bets are off...


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By caughtinside
From Oakland CA
Jan 11, 2012

Climbing... the lamest of the fashion shows.

Seriously. After a while, do you find yourself at crags thinking you know somebody? Climbers all look alike and blend together into a dusty melange. No one cares.

Man, all these threads about what jacket or pants dudes can wear? WTF. Where is the thread discussing the merits or n00biness of the different brands of yoga pants and sport tops for the ladies?


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By Jake Jones
From The Eastern Flatlands
Jan 11, 2012
Me and the offspring walking back to the car after a day of cragging.

Peter Stokes wrote:
When you judge another, you do not define them, you define yourself.


"To truly hock a loogie, one must retrieve the phlegm not from the throat, but from the soul."


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By Richard88
From Sheridan, WY
Jan 11, 2012
piney creek canyon

Why bash people who love to buy the latest and greatest trends in outdoor gear...all that means is i can buy the same gear a year later in past season colors for 50-70% off because no one else wants it or better yet go to the web specials section and get long underwear and soft shells for almost nothing because they are military green. I love all of the people climbers or not that spend 300-400 on the newest arc or paty jacket because thats how companies make a profit and can afford to sell me the same jacket for 150-200 if i wait a little while...to all of you thank you, stay employed, and please keep paying retail!

In all honesty i have no idea why anyone would care at all who wears what.


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By Mark Hudon
Jan 11, 2012
On the North America Wall in 1977.

Yup, in addition to the pants, I have the shorts, they're great. I have a few Mountain Hardware technical T's they are light and dry fast. I have a Patagonia Capalene t-shirt as well as the long sleeve version with a zipper, It's amazing how light and yet warm they are! I have a Patagonia Nano jacket as well as fleece pants, tights and shirts from REI, hell, I even have a Fleece Mountain Gear cap!

Am I a Gumbie!

Yes!

As you get older, like me, you learn that you can actually BUY safety! I'm not going up on El Cap with a fircken down sleeping bag with some crummy bivy sac, I don't head up the Nose in the uncertain weather of the Spring wearing cotton pants! I want to live! I buy all the best gear I can so that I don't have to worry about it when I'm out climbing!

Sure, if I was at Smith Rocks every day, sport climbing, it wouldn't matter a bit what I wear, but El Cap is bigger and badder than anything at Smith and my clothes will help keep me comfortable, warm in cold weather and ALIVE!

Do I care what you think of how I dress?

NO!


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By Tonto
Jan 11, 2012
on the trip

Mark Hudon wrote:
Do I care what you think of how I dress? NO!



Does anyone else find it ironic when people write passionate manifestos about how they don't care what other people think? There is no better proof that you do care what people think. Your emotions betray you, fools! If you didn't care, you wouldn't respond. Funny. Good troll.


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By Mark Hudon
Jan 11, 2012
On the North America Wall in 1977.

That would be good pop psychology but ultimately you're reasoning does not prove your conclusion.


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By Buff Johnson
Jan 11, 2012
 In a zoo in California, a mother tiger gave birth to a rare set of triplet tiger cubs.    Unfortunately, due to complications in the pregnancy, the cubs were born prematurely and due to their tiny size, they died shortly after birth.  <br /> <br />The mother tiger after recovering from the delivery, suddenly started to decline in health, although physically she was fine. The veterinarians felt that the loss of her litter had caused the tigress to fall into a depression. The doctors decided that if the tigress could surrogate another mother's cubs, perhaps she would improve.  <br /> <br />After checking with many other zoos across the country, the depressing news was that there were no tiger cubs of the right age to introduce to the mourning  mother. The veterinarians decided to try something that had never been  tried in a zoo environment. Sometimes a mother of one species will take on the care of a different species. The only "orphans" that could be found quickly, were a litter of weaner pigs.  The zoo keepers and vets wrapped the piglets in tiger skin and placed the babies around the mother tiger. <br />

If you wore honey badger, you wouldn't give a shit about anything


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By Woodchuck ATC
Jan 11, 2012
bouldering at RRG

Indoor climbing at Gameworks on the Vegas strip many years ago, in a suit. Now that was strange clothing.

Vegas indoor climb.
Vegas indoor climb.
Submitted By: Woodchuck ATC on Jan 11, 2012


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By Tonto
Jan 11, 2012
on the trip

Mark Hudon wrote:
That would be good pop psychology but ultimately you're reasoning does not prove your conclusion.



Let me get this straight. You have taken the time out of your day to offer emotional proclamations but you don’t care? Huh? Explain to me why you would take 30 minutes out of your day to respond to a pointless troll thread multiple times. If you don't care, why do it??? Is someone holding you at gunpoint? Are you an automaton? What is your program?


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By dan belmore
Jan 11, 2012
loch vale

I get my climbing pants at Good Will but you gotta chatch toe 50% off saturday to get braggn rights


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By Mark Hudon
Jan 11, 2012
On the North America Wall in 1977.

Because it's so ridiculous that someone should equate someone's climbing ability with the clothes they wear! It's completely unrelated! Sure, there are some people out there who wear what is "in style" and what "looks cool" and wear "what the cool people" wear but one does not lead to the other.

The original poster noted that "is it that only nerdy dorks who like trad gear purchase $90 climbing pants?", well, no, it just so happens that certain $90 dollar pants are freaking good pants for climbing!

I have been climbing for 38 years now, I certainly don't need to "wear the right clothes" to impress other climbers. I buy the most functional clothes I can find for the sport I'm doing and I suspect quite a few other climbers do also.

And as far as posting, I'm doing the same thing you're doing, I'm sitting here, doing a bit of work, surfing the next, posting stuff, it all carries only a small level of importance in my life, don't make it out to be something bigger and more important than it is.


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By Matt N
From Santa Barbara, CA
Jan 11, 2012
OTL

How about those poor boulderers that can only afford a prana beanie and not a t-shirt?


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By JLP
From The Internet
Jan 11, 2012

It really sounds like Goodwill is the new Prana. I don't want to get left behind. However - what if I find my Prana or MH or Patagonia at Goodwill - will people notice? What other brands should I be looking for? Is there a Goodwill house brand? That would be really f'n cool, I think. What if I don't like the stench of 100's of unwashed donkey balls that eminates from these Savers/Goodwill outlets - and I actually have a job? Will I get the same effect of coolness if I just shit my pants a few times? Please - more details here.


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By Daryl Allan
From Sierra Vista, AZ
Jan 11, 2012
Me and my Fetish I guess.. ;)

Hmm... maybe if you leave the Goodwill tags on..

Ya know, on 2nd thought - +1 to needing specifics here. Now that we all know what total t00b steaks we've become, the least you could do is provide some specifics on how we go about ascending into the l33t ranks.

(did anyone just see that sweet MH Monkey Man pullover that was just on SAC?!?)


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By Eric D
From Flagstaff, AZ
Jan 11, 2012
Born again on the last move of the Red Dihedral, high Sierras.

Uh oh...

I have been climbing for 12 years with some decent climbs under my belt. But I just bought a pair of $75 Patagonia climbing pants. Am I now a Nooby again? Will it once again take me 3 minutes to place #2 cams?


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By MegaGaper2000
From Indianola, Wa
Jan 11, 2012
the dragon's tail, or dragon's tooth, or whatever. And me.

Eric D wrote:
Uh oh... I have been climbing for 12 years with some decent climbs under my belt. But I just bought a pair of $75 Patagonia climbing pants. Am I now a Nooby again? Will it once again take me 3 minutes to place #2 cams?


Try 5-7 minutes. Every time. WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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By a vue
Jan 11, 2012

This is true of anything, the more brand names you wear, the bigger (to use an oldschool word) the wannabe you are.


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By Dan Austin
Jan 11, 2012

this vid sums up how i feel about climbing clothes pretty well



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By DrunkenHaymitch
From Madison, WI
Jan 11, 2012

this vid sums up how i feel about climbing clothes pretty well

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+1... smartwool, smartwool, marmot, marmot, petzl, petzl, north face


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By bergbryce
From South Lake Tahoe, CA
Jan 11, 2012

most of my climbing clothes are my old office job clothes. those khakis work pretty well.

There's a big difference between needing protection from the elements and needing clothes to crag in.


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By Matt N
From Santa Barbara, CA
Jan 11, 2012
OTL

Damn I just ordered Royal Robbins pants for $20 - where do I fall if I buy new but at 50% or more off? Am I still a n00b? (I mean I know I'm a newb climber, but will my clothing give it away instead of my shiny rack?)


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