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By sulli
From Reno, Nv
Apr 21, 2008
that's me.

... I've got this rope, an 11.5, great rope barely used it, but...

I got it in 1992, so its now 16 years old.

It's never taken a leader fall of any kind, I've used it periodically over the years for top roping.

Upon visual inspection, it appears good to go. It doesn't feel dried out or stiff, no nicks, stains, or serious abrasions. It looks and feels almost new.

So... How long is a ropes life? Is it more dependent on how much it's used? Or if you take care of it do ropes last indefinitely?

Don't want to buy a new rope but, ya know...

thanks to all for their input.

//SS

By brenta
From Boulder, CO
Apr 21, 2008
Cima Margherita and Cima Tosa in the Dolomiti di Brenta.  October 1977.

An article from 2000
Another article from 2002
Both from the UIAA site.

By Korgil
From Lakehood CO
Apr 21, 2008
Grahh! There be a human in my Throne!

Was it stored well? Sun light is the ropes natural enemy.

By sulli
From Reno, Nv
Apr 21, 2008
that's me.

...Thanks for asking... yes, its been stored in a dry bag at all times and only brought out for short uses.

//SS

By Charles Danforth
From L'ville, CO
Apr 22, 2008
Do a little dance...

While we're on the subject, what about heat and ropes? I've been paranoidly storing my ropes in the basement rather than the garage since the latter can heat up to 90-95 degrees on a hot summer day. Is this overly paranoid, or a wise precaution?

By John Langston
Apr 22, 2008

I checked wikipedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life

As near as I could tell from the article, your rope is not now nor has ever been alive.

By Moof
From Portland, OR
Apr 22, 2008

If my partner showed up at the crag with an 11.5mm rope, I'd whack him upside his head. No matter how new or old it was. 16 years is plenty old to retire on general principles. 11.5 would be really fun to try and thread into a gri-gri, and would likely to be a bit obnoxious in even ATC style devices.

If properly stored and not exposed to anything, it is likely "just fine", still, just get a new rope. Replace your other synthetics from that era as well (slings, harness, draws, etc). Just worth it for the piece of mind.

By darryn
Apr 22, 2008

True dat moof. replace it all

By Mark Nelson
From Coniferous, CO
Apr 22, 2008
 In a zoo in California, a mother tiger gave birth to a rare set of triplet tiger cubs.    Unfortunately, due to complications in the pregnancy, the cubs were born prematurely and due to their tiny size, they died shortly after birth. <br /><br />The mother tiger after recovering from the delivery, suddenly started to decline in health, although physically she was fine. The veterinarians felt that the loss of her litter had caused the tigress to fall into a depression. The doctors decided that if the tigress could surrogate another mother's cubs, perhaps she would improve. <br /><br />After checking with many other zoos across the country, the depressing news was that there were no tiger cubs of the right age to introduce to the mourning  mother. The veterinarians decided to try something that had never been  tried in a zoo environment. Sometimes a mother of one species will take on the care of a different species. The only "orphans" that could be found quickly, were a litter of weaner pigs.  The zoo keepers and vets wrapped the piglets in tiger skin and placed the babies around the mother tiger.<br />

Just remember Langston, the rope is not dead, until it's warm and dead.

By flynn
Apr 22, 2008

Way more than 16 years ago, I worked at Forrest Mountaineering. Ken Trout in the retail store, Bill Forrest in the back office. I learned so much...Anyway, one day a guy brought in a 10-year-old rope that he'd never climbed on, but had stored in a bag in a closet (allegedly perfect conditions, in other words). He wanted to know if it was still okay to climb (lead) on. We cut off a 10' length, put it on the dynamometer and hit the "pull" switch. It broke at 1600 lbs. He decided it would make a dandy leash for his St. Bernard.

By Jon Leicht
From Santee, CA
Apr 22, 2008
Me in the winter

..the fact that you are even asking means that you have a concern.....

Remember
Rope = $150 bucks
Rope not breaking and killing you > $150 bucks

By Daryl Allan
From Sierra Vista, AZ
Apr 22, 2008
...you don't say!!

Korgil wrote:
Was it stored well? Sun light is the ropes natural enemy.

I also held this as gospel but the 2000 UIAA article above stated this:
About Aging of Ropes, Pit Schubert wrote:
This also holds for ageing by the influence of ultraviolet radiation; ropes may lose their colour with time, but virtually no loss of strength (more precisely, no loss of energy absorption capacity over an edge), because since the beginning of the 1960's all perlon and nylon (polyamide) has been UV-stabilised.


Despite this statement, i think i will continue to find it prudent to only expose your line to sun when necessary.


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