By AJS From Boulder, CO Apr 24, 2009
| How do you carry a water bottle on your harness?
I have a Nalgene with p-cord duct taped around it pretty well that clips to the back of my harness, but I was tempted by one of those neoprene sleeves at REI the other day . The benefits I see to one of those is that it might keep the water colder and there's less chance of snagging it on something????
What sayest thou oh wise mountain projectors? |  FLAG |
By mudbuzz Apr 24, 2009
| I think they work great. I like ice in my water this keeps it from sweating in the approach pack. |  FLAG |
By mschlocker From San Diego, CA Apr 24, 2009
| I use a camel bak. I've usually got enough junk hanging off my harness. |  FLAG |
By Skyler Penrod Apr 24, 2009
| I could see holes wearing in that thing fairly quickly. I just duct tape 1 inch webbing to my Nalgene and leave a handle on the bottom to clip into. Works Great. |  FLAG |
By mtnkid85 From Billings MT Apr 24, 2009
| I see that little neopreme jacket getting shreded quite quickly! Ive used a similiar item with my Nalgenes, used sigg bottles(really nice), and now Im down to powerade bottle with a bit of webbing duct taped to it and Im pretty sure this is the best Ive method Ive used.
The Sigg bottles where nice with there lid that took a cariber perfectly but they get dented up surprisingly easy while climbing and if you let them freeze... ya they turn into a bannana split! |  FLAG |
By Evan Simons From Boulder CO Apr 24, 2009
| If you're gonna use a nalgene, get one of the #2 plastic ones (the opaque white). They are soft enough that if you fall against it on rock it won't crush bone like the rigid ones. They don't have any BPA in them either. |  FLAG |
By AJS From Boulder, CO Apr 24, 2009
| Thanks all...
I might replace my p-cord with webbing one of these days, but seems like that's the pretty standard way to do things. Plus, you then have some extra duct tape to have handy.
Just thought of another reason the neoprene might be good...you could probably fit a tallboy in there and it'd stay nice and frosty! |  FLAG |
By Nathan Stokes From Syracuse, NY Apr 24, 2009
| I've considered getting one of these for climbing. http://www.ems.com/catalog/product_detail_square.jsp?PRODUCT>>>>>
I have a bunch for winter hiking and mountaineering and they work well for that. They have a sewn loop out of wide webbing that a small biner fits through plus a huge velcro loop that fits over most hip straps. The bottle zips securely into the holder and it keeps water from freezing for a long while. |  FLAG |
By gimmesome roy From alpine, ca Apr 24, 2009
| that just looks like another gizmo to spend money on. what works well, is a 1 liter water bottle, that the water comes in, and you either insulate it with duct tape, make sure you make enough passes on the loop so it doesnt get yanked off your sling by the first bush you pass. If you dont care about insulating it, p-chord works great on those bottles too, a couple wraps under the thing that the lid screws on to, and your golden... besides, you wont kick yourself after losing your 15 dollar water bottle for the bazillionth time. |  FLAG |
By Reed Fee From Logan, Utah Apr 24, 2009
| Climbers sure can geek out sometimes. Dont be tempted by the neoprene thingy. Looks to me like it would get twisted and dump your wattttttter bottle out onto someones head.
Ok, Ok I used to do the duct tape, nalgene, webbing thing because I thought it looked cool and screamed Im a ROCK climber. Now I just use a Platypus for long routes. |  FLAG |
By Kevin Stricker From Evergreen, CO Apr 24, 2009
| Wide mouth 600ml Gatorade or Vitamin Water bottles are pretty durable....a very small accessory cord clove hitched around the mouth saves the time and tape...and the cord can be reused when you recycle the bottle.
One Liter bottles are too big...and act like boat anchors on your harness. I am guessing you could get 1.2L with two of the above and it will weigh less than your Nalgene and give you more water. You can put the smaller bottles on either side of your harness to balance things out.
If heat is a big deal where you climb a insulated camelback with gatorade icecubes in water works well... |  FLAG |
By Brent Kertzman From Black Hills, SD Apr 24, 2009
| The Camelbak Better Bottle makes the most sense. It comes in three sizes .5L, .75L & 1.0L and has a loop built in for clipping into a biner. The Better Bottle really shines due to a bite valve just like a Camelbak has which means you don't have to worry about removing the cap for a drink... very functional and convenient.
http://www.scheelssports.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Categ>>>>>
|  FLAG |
By gimmesome roy From alpine, ca Apr 24, 2009
| I couldnt get into camelbacks, I got one and used it off and on, and between sitting on the valve and realizing your sitting in a puddle of water you were planning on drinking and having the valve pop off and roll down the hill or grabbing it for a trip, and having really good tasting mold lurking in the tube. After all is said and done, for a one day trip, id rather deal with the dehydration headache than try and stuff a wetnap down a 3 foot hose. the army swears by em...go figure |  FLAG |
By Kris Peterson From rockford,il Apr 25, 2009
| Nathan Stokes wrote: I've considered getting one of these for climbing. http://www.ems.com/catalog/product_detail_square.jsp?PRODUCT>>>>> I have a bunch for winter hiking and mountaineering and they work well for that. They have a sewn loop out of wide webbing that a small biner fits through plus a huge velcro loop that fits over most hip straps. The bottle zips securely into the holder and it keeps water from freezing for a long while. My dad uses one of these, and loves it. I do have to say, his water stays colder longer than anybody else's. |  FLAG |
By Erik W From Boulder, CO Apr 25, 2009
| I made the switch to the stainless steel Klean Kanteens a couple years ago and have been really happy with them. First, they aren't plastic - even plastics that are BPA-free end up leaching a good amount of chemicals into the water on warm/hot days. Second, the thing is pretty much indestructible (much more so than an aluminum SIGG bottle). And really important, the bare metal prohibits most funk from growing in there should I forget to clean out the bottle regularly.
I use two different sized bottles for most climbing days - one big one for leaving with my pack at the base, and a small one to clip on my harness for the route. I'll usually take a monster swig of the former before heading up the climb, thus allowing me to use a pretty small bottle on the climb. For really warm/long days, I'll pack the large bottle in an empty Camelbak pack (hydration bladder removed). I prefer not having the weight hanging from my harness, and I don't trust the flimsy bladders for routes where loosing my water would make for a very un-fun day (had it happen with a platypus hydration bladder in the Bugaboos... not cool).
Anyway, give the stainless steel bottles a look. Go for the unpainted ones - better for the environment. |  FLAG |
By JLP From The Internet Apr 25, 2009
| I've heard a lot of epic stories about Camelbacks leaking and have experienced a couple myself. Loosing even 1 cup of water on a hot grade V is big deal. My biggest gripe, though, is that you can't easily see and ration your water. IMO, they're a little ghey, gimicky and the packs don't hold very much either.
Agree about 1L being too much to hang from your harness, unless you're climbing a bunch of grades below your limit.
I've been trying the Camelback Better Bottle as well, but the ones w/o the straw. 24 oz seems a good capacity for 2 for cragging. Seems if I need more water than that, there's probably a haulable pack between us. In the latter case, I use either dromedary bags or 2L soda bottles. I usually tape the caps and nipples shut, too, on all but the "current" bottle. Loosing water on a hot day can be devastating, especially when "drying out" was already part of your plan with the water you had. |  FLAG |
By Hank Caylor Administrator From Left Hand Canyon, CO Apr 25, 2009
| What is watter? |  FLAG |
By Buff Johnson From Coniferous, CO Apr 25, 2009
| It goes in a Sigg
climbing BPA-free might not be "street", but that's how I roll ... |  FLAG |
By john strand From southern colo Apr 25, 2009
| Hank Caylor wrote: What is watter?
If the route is long enuff to carry watter- I use a pack |  FLAG |
By Alan Searcy From Pine, Colorado Apr 25, 2009
| There's a loop on the nalgene, you clip it......... |  FLAG |
By John Hegyes From Las Vegas, NV Apr 25, 2009
| JLP wrote: I've heard a lot of epic stories about Camelbacks leaking and have experienced a couple myself. Loosing even 1 cup of water on a hot grade V is big deal. My biggest gripe, though, is that you can't easily see and ration your water. IMO, they're a little ghey, gimicky and the packs don't hold very much either. Agree about 1L being too much to hang from your harness, unless you're climbing a bunch of grades below your limit. I tend to agree with the remarks on Camelbacks. I think they do a mediocre job of carrying water and a worse job carrying gear. On long trad routes I prefer to put a MSR Dromedary in my Black Diamond Bullet pack.
I've learned to tape the nipple to the tube though. Once without the tape I was climbing the Epinepherine chimney crux and the nipple shot off like a rocket and I looked like I wet my pants... Oh, wait, I think I did wet my pants. |  FLAG |
By Mike Lane From Centennial, CO Apr 25, 2009
| You should never drink watter. Fish shit in it. |  FLAG |
By Evan Simons From Boulder CO Apr 26, 2009
| The Iron Sausage wrote: You should never drink watter. Fish shit in it.
I believe W.C. Fields actually said "I never drink water, fish f*%k in it" |  FLAG |
By mschlocker From San Diego, CA Apr 26, 2009
| JLP wrote: I've heard a lot of epic stories about Camelbacks ....
Truth be told, I have two epic camelbak stories of my own. The problem is the angled valve getting caught on bushes mid-climb and ripped off. Water everywhere! The solution is to replace the L valve with a straight one which are available. No more snags.
Another near-epic I had was when I bought a rope-bag/pack/bucket thing. The manufacturer did not loop the webbing for the pack straps and when I reached the end of a pitch, quite high up, I realized that the pack was hanging on by one strap, and about 1/2" of it at that. Somebody below me almost had a very bad day. |  FLAG |
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