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By Glenn Gordon
From Buffalo Grove, Illinois
Jul 3, 2009
Halfway up Devil's Tower.

Hi,

I have a set of DMM offset nuts.

The aluminum nuts constantly creep up the wire. Someone recommended I use silicone as a bonding agent to hold them in place at the end of the wire. Silicone however releases large amounts of acetic acid during its curing process (something I learned from my days in working on aircraft. I don't know what the effects of acetic acid on the stainless wire or the aluminum nut would be and I don't want to find out the hard way. I think epoxy is a much more inert substance and would probably work in this application.

Does anyone know a good method for getting the nut to stay on the end of the wire?

Thanks,
Glenn


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By Will Anglin
From Gunnison, CO
Jul 3, 2009
Brass offsets = Gold

A bit of electrical tape at the base works fine. It does get torn up and needs replacing from time to time.


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By Wade Frank
From Littleton, CO
Jul 3, 2009
me

Will Anglin wrote:
A bit of electrical tape at the base works fine. It does get torn up and needs replacing from time to time.


+1


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By LeeAB
Administrator
From ABQ, NM
Jul 3, 2009
Once we landed we headed to Font to find a place to stay for the night before doing a day of wine tasting and heading to Buoux.

I think the nuts are supposed to beable to slide on the wires. I always cringe when I see someone wildly yanking out and up on the wires on the bottom of a stopper which leaves them kinked, sometimes worse than others and can make them difficult to place later. Better to push the wires through the nut then pull straight up on the wires which is exactly the direction you want to tug on the thing in the first place and will not kink your wires.


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By marde
From Germany
Jul 4, 2009

Afaik someone asked the same question on another forum and someone from dmm mentioned which glue is best.
Somehow I cand find it anymore.
I guess the easiest and best way would be a short email to:

chris@dmmwales.com

After some bigwalls mine are kinked enough from cleaning so they don't slide anymore.
But I guess that's not what you're up to.

martin


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By Lee Smith
Jul 4, 2009
You can love your rope but you can't "LOVE" your rope

I agree with the electric tape. It allows some flex of the cable in side the nut. It does required the occasional re-do.


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By Jon Miller on the WS
Jul 4, 2009

I used JB weld on mine. No problem any more!
Jon


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By Evan1984
Jul 4, 2009

LeeAB wrote:
I think the nuts are supposed to beable to slide on the wires. I always cringe when I see someone wildly yanking out and up on the wires on the bottom of a stopper which leaves them kinked, sometimes worse than others and can make them difficult to place later. Better to push the wires through the nut then pull straight up on the wires which is exactly the direction you want to tug on the thing in the first place and will not kink your wires.


That's a great idea! Don't mind if I steal it.

Anyway, one thing to consider about glueing them in place is that it is permanent. I've used nuts as bolt hangers when you find a hangerless bolt by sliding the nut down, hooking the bolt, and cinching the nut back up. so glueing them in place is a problem for me.

I've personally had trouble getting electrical tape to stick to the braided wires without geting gummy and nasty and falling off. I would just wrap a rubber band around the base of the nut: cheap, easy, non-permanent, and no adhesive.

Evan


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By rhyang
From San Jose, CA
Jul 5, 2009
5-September-2009: Me leading the North Face (5.8)<br /><br />pic by Laura Molnar

Another idea: Get some clear epoxy from Home Despot, slide nut up the wire a bit, apply glue to wire ends, then slide nut back down, flush with ends. Allow to cure. Scrape off excess dried glue from end of nut with utility knife. Voila, no more slippage ..

Love my DMM alloy offsets !


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By Dave Cummings
From Louisville, CO
Jul 6, 2009
me on my redpoint

I put a little bit of super glue on the cable and that worked great for a while, needs to be replaced occationally but works like a charm


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By WiledHorse
From NoGo
Jul 6, 2009

whip on 'em a few times and they will stop doing that.

however there are some benes to having them slide, (makeshift draws, slinging hangerless bolts, jumpstarting a car battery, hanging a muffler, etc.)


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By banks
From Oklahoma City, OK
Jul 10, 2009

I did the same as Rhyang. A little epoxy and I haven't had a problem yet.


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