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By Ruedi Schubarth
From Longview, TX
May 13, 2008
Backpacking to a remote (secret) location in Alaska to build an airstrip

According to this, you would have to eat 1300 pounds of food a day to come in contact with enough BPA to cause any effect:

http://www.bisphenol-a.org/human/polyplastics.html

By kirra
May 13, 2008

Ruedi Schubarth wrote:
According to this, you would have to eat 1300 pounds of food a day to come in contact with enough BPA to cause any effect: http://www.bisphenol-a.org/human/polyplastics.html

Ruedi, bear in mind the owner of this domain "www.bisphenol-a.org" is an industry lobby group called the American Chemical Council

The ACC is in tight with the EPA and recently a top scientist and award winning toxicologist, Deborah Rice was let go for speaking her mind against deca, a widely used flame-retardant. Quoted from article,"Environmentalists accuse the EPA of a "dangerous double standard," because under the Bush administration, many pro-industry experts have served on the agency's scientific panels.

The Environmental Working Group, a Washington, D.C.-based advocacy group, reviewed seven EPA panels created last year and found 17 panelists who were employed or funded by the chemical industry or had made public statements that the chemicals they were reviewing were safe. In one example, an Exxon Mobil Corp. employee served on an EPA expert panel responsible for deciding whether ethylene oxide, a chemical manufactured by Exxon Mobil, is a carcinogen.


The article/link you supplied references studies done by the EPA.

Things seem to be getting messy with a Letter going out from officials demanding answers as BPA research investigation continues. a) article explaining letter -- b) PDF letter

By Tom Hanson
From Castle Rock, CO
May 14, 2008
Tom Marley and the Whalers

Oh no. I have used Nalgene bottles for a quarter century.
"Dangerous" sports never killed me, but now I discover that those evil, insidious Nalgene products will be the reason for my demise.
This is so disturbing that I'm going to start buying my cheap bourbon in glass bottles from this point forward.

By Mark Nelson
From Coniferous, CO
May 14, 2008
 In a zoo in California, a mother tiger gave birth to a rare set of triplet tiger cubs.    Unfortunately, due to complications in the pregnancy, the cubs were born prematurely and due to their tiny size, they died shortly after birth. <br /><br />The mother tiger after recovering from the delivery, suddenly started to decline in health, although physically she was fine. The veterinarians felt that the loss of her litter had caused the tigress to fall into a depression. The doctors decided that if the tigress could surrogate another mother's cubs, perhaps she would improve. <br /><br />After checking with many other zoos across the country, the depressing news was that there were no tiger cubs of the right age to introduce to the mourning  mother. The veterinarians decided to try something that had never been  tried in a zoo environment. Sometimes a mother of one species will take on the care of a different species. The only "orphans" that could be found quickly, were a litter of weaner pigs.  The zoo keepers and vets wrapped the piglets in tiger skin and placed the babies around the mother tiger.<br />

I got a Sigg from the gang at Wild Xch. I'm such a lemming, but the can is so cool.

By Braxton Norwood
From Tucson
May 14, 2008
Now in hi-res!

This is way worse than BPA: http://www.dhmo.org/facts.html.

By Not So Famous Old Dude
From Denver, CO
May 14, 2008

Braxton Norwood wrote:
This is way worse than BPA: http://www.dhmo.org/facts.html.


What if I sip boiling DMHO from a BPA-impregnated Nalgene bottle?

By kirra
May 14, 2008

Not So Famous Old Dude wrote:
What if I sip boiling DMHO from a BPA-impregnated Nalgene bottle?

you become a 'critter-hater' :)

By Eastvillage
From New York, NY
May 14, 2008

This "problem" doesn't seem like one at all. Water never seems to be in a nalgene bottle very long, hardly long enough to concern me or warrant tossing perfectly good TEMPORARY water containers that work extremely well for climbing, that are extremely durable.

I'm sure the pollutants you inhale from the road trip to the mountains is worse than the what might get into you from a nalgene bottle.

By Not So Famous Old Dude
From Denver, CO
May 14, 2008

kirra wrote:
you become a 'critter-hater' :)


Oh, I'm all better now since I've been taking my Thorazine. I love those burly raptors now. I wish they'd just close all the climbs forever and then I could sit in my lawn chair with my binoculars and admire them diving and swooping all day, while sipping my Thorazine laced DMHO juice from my BPA-laden Nalgene bottle.

By Mark Nelson
From Coniferous, CO
May 14, 2008
 In a zoo in California, a mother tiger gave birth to a rare set of triplet tiger cubs.    Unfortunately, due to complications in the pregnancy, the cubs were born prematurely and due to their tiny size, they died shortly after birth. <br /><br />The mother tiger after recovering from the delivery, suddenly started to decline in health, although physically she was fine. The veterinarians felt that the loss of her litter had caused the tigress to fall into a depression. The doctors decided that if the tigress could surrogate another mother's cubs, perhaps she would improve. <br /><br />After checking with many other zoos across the country, the depressing news was that there were no tiger cubs of the right age to introduce to the mourning  mother. The veterinarians decided to try something that had never been  tried in a zoo environment. Sometimes a mother of one species will take on the care of a different species. The only "orphans" that could be found quickly, were a litter of weaner pigs.  The zoo keepers and vets wrapped the piglets in tiger skin and placed the babies around the mother tiger.<br />

In the words of South Park: Blame Canada!

By kirra
May 14, 2008

REI pulls bottles

maybe we should all run out and buy more BPA bottles -- could be "collectors-items" someday... ha..!

By Stymingersfink
May 14, 2008
Redtail Hawk, circling nest 40' up the tower at Anderson Pass

Not So Famous Old Dude wrote:
What if I sip boiling DMHO from a BPA-impregnated Nalgene bottle?

Funny you should mention that. It was the first solution mentioned in an email I recently received suggesting several AMAZING HOME REMEDIES!!

I'll forward that on to you now.

You too, Kirra.

By kirra
May 14, 2008

oh thank you so very much Mr fingers...:)

By Josh Audrey
From LAS VEGAS
May 14, 2008
chillin after a climb

send all my hardest climb all jacked up on BPA plastic bottles, but I also place aliens on lead too so I'm sort of a double threat.

By Ruedi Schubarth
From Longview, TX
May 18, 2008
Backpacking to a remote (secret) location in Alaska to build an airstrip

Thanks for the insight Kirra! Good to know... not enough information can be just as bad as a lie.

kirra wrote:
Ruedi, bear in mind the owner of this domain "www.bisphenol-a.org" is an industry lobby group called the American Chemical Council http://energycommerce.house.gov/Press_110/110-ltr.040208.ACC>>>>>


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