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By Justin F P
From Ft. Collins, CO
Mar 24, 2008
Me on a supposed 12a.

This past week I had an interesting situation come up. A friend of mine was climbing and slipped/fell while on a knee jam. Long story short, their knee was stuck for an extended period of time. One of the solutions we came up with was to poor motor oil on their leg to try and lube it up. We got the knee out eventually, as well as about a quart of oil on my rope. Does anyone know if this is a bad thing? should the rope be retired? Can I still take a good whipper or two on it? Any thoughts would be appreciated, thanks.
Justin

By John McNamee
Administrator
From Littleton, CO
Mar 24, 2008
Pitch 7

Yes, bad.

Any contact with a petroleum product isn't good for a rope.

Is it just a spot or was the rope drenched?

By Dave Fiorucci
From Boulder, Colorado
Mar 24, 2008
Top of Mt. Bierstadt (July 3rd 2006).

THat is the strangest story ever. Dude, there won't be many people tellin you it's ok to use that rope. I have read the forums here and they get into such details as using a sharpie to mark the middle of a rope and the safety consequences that can cause. It was very interesting to read all the comments, and suggestions people had. I eventually marked the center of my rope with dental floss, because I was so worried about adding a chemical to my rope. One part of me thinks that you would be ok or it wouldn't make such a big deal and feel the rope would be ok if I fell on it. On the other hand finding out the hard way would really suck. I would say it's time to let the rope go.

By jon vandub
From westminster,co
Mar 24, 2008

i wouldnt chance my life to a quart of motor oil!!!!!

UMMM.... just wondering, what climb did you turn into the new 2nd pitch of ruper?

Meaning very polished:)

By Tim Stich
From Colorado Springs, Colorado
Mar 24, 2008
Looking down from Notchtop

Just clean the rope with a grease cutting soap. From another site:

"Testing done by the AlliedSignal Corporation indicates salt water, acetone, benzene, chloroform, freon, gasoline, kerosene, motor oil, mineral oil, paints and pine oil do not appreciably affect nylon and should not damage your rope."

What does damage ropes is acids.

By Dave Fiorucci
From Boulder, Colorado
Mar 24, 2008
Top of Mt. Bierstadt (July 3rd 2006).

yeah Charlie! Lets take the oil rope to candy mountain! Candy Mountain Charlie! Lets go on an adv__E_n-ture, lets take the rope to Candy Mountain. (Dude- Tim when you said 'acid' --made me think of that video you posted about Candy Mountain.) THat was funny.

By Dave Fiorucci
From Boulder, Colorado
Mar 24, 2008
Top of Mt. Bierstadt (July 3rd 2006).

Here is the link:
http://www.mountainproject.com/v/colorado__rocky_mountain_re>>>>>

By Tim Stich
From Colorado Springs, Colorado
Mar 24, 2008
Looking down from Notchtop

Now what does have some acid in it is used motor oil. Nitric oxide can be produced by combustion, which combined with O2 makes nitric acid. So don't get any of that on your rope.

Dave, you must be high. Funny what the mind associates.

By Dave Fiorucci
From Boulder, Colorado
Mar 24, 2008
Top of Mt. Bierstadt (July 3rd 2006).

hold on let me get my notebook. hahha [N=O + O2] = HNO3. I thought you were just kiddin Justin. SO you mean you would climb on that rope as long as it was new oil not used oil. I thought you were the high one.

By Tim Stich
From Colorado Springs, Colorado
Mar 24, 2008
Looking down from Notchtop

Dave Fiorucci wrote:
hold on let me get my notebook. hahha [N=O + O2] = HNO3. I thought you were just kiddin Justin. SO you mean you would climb on that rope as long as it was new oil not used oil. I thought you were the high one.


You get the H added when you put NO2 with H20, water vapor. Combustion of gasoline produces water vapor as well.

Clean, new motor oil. No problem.

From Sterling Rope:

"What chemicals are bad for my rope?

Chemicals are bad for your rope. Do not expose your nylon or polyester ropes to chemicals. That said, much recent data has been collected regarding how substances affect rope life. Data available from Honeywell Corporation (former producers of nylon 6, polyester) shows that nylon's strength is not greatly affected by motor oil, mineral oil, salt water, Freon, gasoline, kerosene, benzene, chloroform, paints, pine oils, or insect repellents containing DEET. Chemicals that should be avoided at all costs are bleach and sulfuric acid. In general, the strength of nylon fiber is not greatly affected by alkalis or weak acids, while polyester fiber is not greatly affected by acids or weak alkalis Still with this reassurance it is best to protect your rope from exposure to any acids or alkalis and to store your rope in a cool dry environment."

Now STFU.

By Matt Gates
From Longmont, CO
Mar 24, 2008
Mt. Lady Washington, Dec. 2005

Next time (god forbid), use a quart of woolite. Anyhoo, your life is probably worth the $200+- for a new rope. Good luck.

By andy peter tretiakoff
From Can't Decide
Mar 24, 2008
Getting ready for an early morning tour.

APRIL FOOL'S!

By Tim Stich
From Colorado Springs, Colorado
Mar 24, 2008
Looking down from Notchtop

I pity the fool that thinks it's April already. Get out the way! Just keep that crazy Murdoch away from my van.

Jazz!

By Jesse Davidson
From san diego, ca
Mar 24, 2008
california boy<br />

I say, cut off 2 feet from one end of the rope and soak it in the nastiest used oil you can find. Let it sit on the dashboard of your car in hot, direct sun for two weeks. Cut 2 feet off the other end of your rope, then send them both off to an engineering house with a pull testing rig and see if there's any appreciable difference in strength. If you have to retire your rope, you might as well learn something.

By Tim Stich
From Colorado Springs, Colorado
Mar 25, 2008
Looking down from Notchtop

Give me the rope if you want to dispose of it, Mr. Justin.

By Matthew Prom
From West Saint Paul, MN
Mar 25, 2008
Taylors Falls also has some White Water Kayaking

Wow, why have I not seen that candy mountain video before, that is awesome.

By Marc Horan
From Boulder, CO area
Mar 25, 2008
One of only a few ledges on the PO.

I wouldn't climb on the rope.

Re: Candy Mountain. That's 4 min of my life I'll never be able to get back.

Thanks, guys. :)

--Marc

By Shiloh
From Phoenix, AZ
Mar 26, 2008
Heave Ho on the Block Section 5.9 Lord of the Rings Wall

OMG that video will haunt my dreams!


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