Yep, I know I'm jumping the gun - has anyone seen one of these yet? Here's what I know:

1) They're a lot like Camalots in that they are dual axle.
2) They're different from Camalots in that the cams are forged aluminium, not machined from stock.
3) They have the extendable sling that DMM are famous for.
4) Cam angle is different to Camalots meaning less range.

Supertopo forum here.

http://www.rockclimbing.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=21>>>>>


some pictures stuff and things

When are these due to come out? From what I've seen/heard they could be pretty sweet...

1) They're a lot like Camalots in that they are dual axle.
And they shamelessly stole the color coding, which is nice for continuity on the rack-go thievery!

2) They're different from Camalots in that the cams are forged aluminium, not machined from stock.
Can someone with some metal know how tell me what this means for me as a climber?

3) They have the extendable sling that DMM are famous for.
Love this and wish more people did it.

Evan

I played with them at the OR Show, and they are going to be sweet! Imagine all the good parts of a C4 now make it significantly lighter and add a doubled sling. Oh the sweetness. In my fondling I did notice that I didn't like the thumb catch quite as much as the C4's. I doubt I'll notice the slightly reduced range. Of course this is all from checking it out in hand with a pre production model and not getting to play with it on the rock.

Holy Clone Cams Batman!! So basically all DMM did is take BD's cam and make it better?

That is truthfully the best way to make it big...don't try to invent a new idea, take an old one and make it better!!