Has anyone been climbing on the Camp Nano 23 (the new 23g version) wiregate? If so, pros & cons?

I was going to order a handful of the Trango SuperFlys to add to the rack, and noticed these. Sounds like they are much smaller...

The camp are a little small for my hands, I like the trango, but you have to be a little more carefull with them than others ( watch that they a little more carefully that they don't get stressed over small bumps... since the body of it is much skinier) Mad rocks are also nice and light weight, and still reasonably priced.

For lightweight biners, I love the Wild Country Heliums. Full size and as light as the BD nanos.

Go with the super flys. They are the bomb. My rack is full of them now. They are ultra light and more importantly easy to handle. Not hard to clip and hold up well. I have not used a nuetrino since i got these bad boys. The nano is just too small for me to handle and clip. I end up fumbling it a bit. i even got them supa fly's for my quick draws as well.
Great biner.

I would agree that the camps are small and that the superflys are SWEET!! but what about the bd oz? they look pretty cool and are pretty damn light.

I have the 'old' camp Nanos. I think they're the same size as the nano 23s, they just shaved off more metal?

I've got all my cams racked on them.

Initially, there was a small adjustment as I got used to them. All my other biners are Neutrinos. What I noticed was that the body of the biner is more or less the same size, but that the gate on the Nano is about a 1/4" shorter! Shortest gate of any biner by far.

This means it feels really different. It's a smaller target, and it goes from closed to open really fast, and is less smooth than a longer gated biner.

For me they have worked out great. I like them as a cam biner. I don't think I'd set them up on my slings though.

I've used superflys on friends racks and thought they were terrific biners too. They are definitely easier to clip, but I wouldnt' say the camps are hard to clip.

Thanks for the feedback, guys. I'll definitely take a look at them next time I'm in Neptunes. I was lured by the light weight, but think I'll probably stick with what I've got going already -- the SuperFlys.

Even the SuperFlys, despite having the largest gate opening of 'small' biners, are pretty hard to use in the alpine with gloves... I imagine there is no gloved usage with the Nanos when your fingers feel frozen!

Cheers!

I'm normally not a fan of metolius product, but I do like the inferno carabiner. It's not very expensive, behaves just like a normal biner and have good open gate strength (10KN).

I like the Trango Superfly. I also like the Mammut Moses, which is 3 g lighter, but otherwise similar to the Superfly. The WC Helium is 3 g heavier than the Superfly, but I like the no-snag nose. I use an old-model Nano (28 g) for racking tricams. I concur that for alpine use it's a bit too small. I like the color-coordinated Neutrinos for racking Camalots, but the biners themselves are just OK. I haven't seen the WC Xenon Lite yet: It should be interesting.

EDIT: I saw a Xenon Lite. It's only marginally larger than the Nano.

The Nano 23's seem like keychain 'biners to me. I think they did even make them a hair smaller than the old Nanos just from a visual perspective. The BD OZ and Superflys are very comparable in size, while the OZ is a little lighter (28g vs 30g). For an "ultralight" carabiner, I'd say the OZ or Superfly are the way to go for all around use. I couldn't imagine trying to use the Nano 23 with even a thin glove.