What Hand Jammies need is the right spokesperson. A full-page ad in Climbing magazine showing Chuck Norris free-soloing a 65' roof crack in nothing but flip flops and Hand Jammies. That would mark the end of the "are hand jammies lame" debate.

JL

blah, blibidy,blah.......dude fuck what everyone says about these kind of things including me, do what you want you will anyways. on the other hand you got 2 pages out of it so cheers.

I think a thick tape job and a set of hand jammies for a man eating offwidth are totally cool and legit.

Thanks Everyone who contributed to this absurd thread... it really kept me smiling through the day! Viva La Hand Jammies!! Also the idea of Chuck Norris free soloing with hand Jammies made this whole thing totally worth it. You guys Rock!

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I thought I recognized this conversation...

Why would you rag on someone for using something that gives a clear disadvantage?

Lame as in "doesn't work" not as in "cheating".

super duper lame. Just tape em up.

This is a funny thread. I checked out the other one linked to and saw this quote by Tea

"jammies are just another tool...for tools (sorry couldn't resist)."

Man that guy is funny!!

In joshua tree a few years back I decided to test them out. I used them for a few laps on a hand crack, took them off and taped up and ran some more laps on the same crack. Conclusion was that the jammies killed your sensitivity to the rock-it seemed like you just throw your hands in the crack anywhere and keep moving. Where as tape you had to search around a little more for the best jam. I think they have there place like everything else.

Ok, I have to chime in. Here's my opinion. If you are using hand jammies to "compensate" for something, they are lame. All of the comparisons to climbing shoes are lame. The difference is you don't walk barefoot all day everyday. Human Beings rely on shoes. I don't use finger condoms for typing, playing guitar, or anything for that matter. Hands should be FREE! Feet should have shoes. Tape should be protection against abrasion not to also "compensate" for your lack in size, but may be used for a lack of stamina when necessary. With proper training I have found I need tape less and less. If I'm doing one or two routes I almost always go sans tape, if I am doing a whole day of jamming I would rather use the tape. Hand may even jammies have their place: Training or quick protection where taping is inconvenient. OK I have shared my opinion and now can feel better about myself and go back to work...

It's more about the velcro than the rubber.

They come off without risking a trip to the emergency room, don't add 15 minutes of sitting around waiting for partners to tape up, don't get left on all day (or more!) to avoid going through it again.

I sewed velcro on some tape gloves, too. Works good.

Of course they are lame.

At the risk of falling into the lame category I will say I have a pair of hand jammies in the bottom of my pack that I have used maybe twice since I bought them which is more often than I have ever used tape gloves. I use them because I am a chef and I cannot afford to have my hands tore up for many obvious reasons, food safety being the most important. So, for painful fist jams or sharp, crystal filled cracks they are nice to have and beat taking the time to tape up, which I almost never did anyways.

Luke the never ending debate continues, the way i see it to each your own. Climbing gear is out there use it or don't doesn't really matter. I don't use hand jammies because I prefer tape or bare hand. If you use them you look silly but if they work for you great.