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By George Bell
From Boulder, CO
May 16, 2009
Hip trouble ...

I know Aliens got a lot of bad publicity over the past few years due due poor quality control and how CCH handled the problems. But I still have them on my rack. I noticed today that the CCH web site seems to be gone or down. I would buy new Aliens if CCH proved they had solved all the problems. But are they still being made?


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By Brian Adzima
From Boulder CO
May 16, 2009
somewhere in WV

For what its worth, I tried to buy some at bent gate last weekend, but they said they cannot keep them in stock and to call back.


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By Monty
From golden
May 16, 2009
night time, november projecting.... a little obsessive.

They are a very small company, and when i use to work at shops, it was always very hard to stock them. Don't know about the website problems, but as far as i know they are around, just can't keep up with the demand.


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By Beached Nuts
From Bermuda bitches
May 16, 2009
Just me

FWIW, whenever they've proved that they've solved their problems, it's never good enough for the critics.

You can still buy them but they sell fast and aren't stocked in as many places as before.

I personally would replace any of my Aliens with them if I lost my old ones. I do think I'd take a few bounce tests or backed up lobs onto them before they'd go into full rotation though.


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By sean connors
May 16, 2009
Head Like a Hole

http://www.aliencamsbycch.com/


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By no1nprtclr
From Front range Colorado
May 16, 2009

You can still find them at The Mountainshop in Ft Collins. I bought some not too long ago for a friend from Spain, he says he can't find them back home.

Juan


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By George Bell
From Boulder, CO
May 16, 2009
Hip trouble ...

Thanks, Sean. That was the web site I was trying this morning but it is working now. I trust my Aliens and they are great! I do not want them to go away.


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By Geir Hundal
From Tucson, AZ
May 16, 2009
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The web site up and running fine.

I've got two sets and routinely send my aliens in for repair (I put mine through a lot of use!) They have turned around my repaired cams quickly and for a very good price.

CCH has obviously addressed the failures. They fired the people that did the poor brazing jobs that lead to the failures. They pull test every unit before shipping. No further failures have been reported. While I agree the quality control issue never should have come up to begin with, it is clear to me now that they have greatly improved it.

So I'll be keeping on using my aliens, taking more long whippers on them, and ordering additional ones when I wear mine out. I really like the way they place in tough spots and the super-flexible stems.

'nuff said. I'm going climbing.


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By John McNamee
Administrator
From Littleton, CO
May 16, 2009
skiing one

Aliens are still in production and you can get them from:

Bentgate

Wildernessexchangeunlimited

Gearheads (huge selection)

Pagan mountaineering

mammothgear

Mtntools

There are probably others, but these are the ones that I know that have usually good supplies...


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By Phoenix
From louisville, colorado
May 19, 2009
Regular Route, A.K.A. Mark of Zorro<br />Boulder Canyon

They're still in production. Metolius makes them now, and they changed the name to the Mastercam. They also no longer look like they were made in a basement.


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By Brig J.
May 20, 2009

Phoenix wrote:
They're still in production. Metolius makes them now, and they changed the name to the Mastercam. They also no longer look like they were made in a basement.

Would agree with you there on the looks but I own both and the strings on Mastercams always leave me apprehensive, while the visual appeal of the Aliens does the same. Climb on them both and you will learn to trust each in their intended environments. Both a great product with their own niche.


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By J. Thompson
From denver, co
May 20, 2009
Trundling a death block. Photo by Dan Gambino.

Phoenix wrote:
They're still in production. Metolius makes them now, and they changed the name to the Mastercam. They also no longer look like they were made in a basement.



....not to mention they don't work anywhere near as well as the the original aliens.

Sub-par copies.


josh


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By Aric Datesman
May 20, 2009

Guys, check out the other Alien thread up at the top of the list. They're definitely still in business as I spoke with them yesterday. I had 2 non-recall failures while testing gear over the weekend (0702, which is 2 years before the recall and 0105 which is at the very end of the recall but it failed in a non-recall manner). Some of the details are in the other thread and a full writeup will be on RC later today.

-aric.


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By JASON A.
May 20, 2009

if you want aliens, get connected with Leo from Big Hoss Mountain Sports in Laramie. He was able to get an alien order w/in a week for me.


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By Brian Scoggins
From Laramie, WY
May 20, 2009

Phoenix wrote:
They're still in production. Metolius makes them now, and they changed the name to the Mastercam. They also no longer look like they were made in a basement.


That's just about the most god awful shitty remake ever. The aliens have a larger than average cam angle, so they have a larger range than other, similarly sized cams. Metolius cams have a smaller than average cam angle, so they have a smaller range than other, similarly sized cams. The range, the internal cam springs, and the super flexible stem are what make the Alien design good. Its just the QC issues that make me hesitate with them.


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