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By grappler
From Fort Collins, CO
Jun 2, 2008

Climbers preparing to come to Tensleep this summer have recently found this posting online connected to the myspace page of Mike Decker, a resident of Worland, written last week on Wednesday, May 21, 2008:

blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=123>>>

(he has since removed it)

Its scary and it is a direct threat of violence against the canyon's bolters.

he is mentally ill and has written openly about his battle with depression on the same myspace page. His extreme anger with the numbers of climbers arriving this summer, and the new guidebook he does not know is out, combined with his open "declaration of war" and his previous criminal record and mental health history make extreme violence to the canyon's bolters a possibilty.

Rumor has it that this year will be the 10th annual (informal) climbers festival, with a new guide book out on the canyon. This guy is going to flip his shit when he sees that.

In 2006 Mike attacked 2 bolters he knew and was charged with battery.

He has also chopped a dozen routes (2006)

All this coupled with threats like:

"the war begins. first i had to deal with stan (price),but that was easy cause he just hid from me.or should i say guilt can fuck weak minded souls like his!AARON HUEY,that was easy just threatened to beat his fucking ass and he went of hiding and left his friends here!ALLI RAINEY,MATT WENDLING,MIKE SNIDER and all the fucking waste that associate with these people.they took til 2006 to get out of here!and these people are not welcome here and are very brave if they return!just ask that fake bitch alli rainey,bring up my name and watch her turn white:)"

"you yuppie sellout fucks just stay the FUCK OUT! or i will come pay you a fucking visit and you will leave soon after! the war continues."



on Dec 4, 2007 he also wrote (several entries down the page):

blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.ListAll&friendID=>>>

"then the day came,they were sucking some dick in the parking area.they seen me i turned around and ive never seen people run so fast,but i caught them.I fucking verbally fucked them and gave matt a little baby shot to the sternum,which caused him to fly through the air.he runs and leaves his own wife to be verbaly mind fucked by me.i would never touch a women,the mouth works fine.

well I got a breach of peace and battery for that one,the judge told me i should have kicked his ass cause its all battery anyhow.but this isnt over matt wendling still is going to get what he has coming from me,i wont make the same mistake again.YOUR FUCKED WENDLING!!

the moral of the story is dont come to tensleep canyon and fuck the guy who has been here for 13 years. If you want beta i will give it,but i better not find it in a guide or the internet."


The moral of the story is DO COME TO TENSLEEP this guy is all talk. he hides in the lower canyon and very few people ever see him. Coming in large numbers to enjoy the climbing is the only way to win.

The rock is just too good to retreat!


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By Buff Johnson
Jun 2, 2008
 In a zoo in California, a mother tiger gave birth to a rare set of triplet tiger cubs.    Unfortunately, due to complications in the pregnancy, the cubs were born prematurely and due to their tiny size, they died shortly after birth.  <br /> <br />The mother tiger after recovering from the delivery, suddenly started to decline in health, although physically she was fine. The veterinarians felt that the loss of her litter had caused the tigress to fall into a depression. The doctors decided that if the tigress could surrogate another mother's cubs, perhaps she would improve.  <br /> <br />After checking with many other zoos across the country, the depressing news was that there were no tiger cubs of the right age to introduce to the mourning  mother. The veterinarians decided to try something that had never been  tried in a zoo environment. Sometimes a mother of one species will take on the care of a different species. The only "orphans" that could be found quickly, were a litter of weaner pigs.  The zoo keepers and vets wrapped the piglets in tiger skin and placed the babies around the mother tiger. <br />

Restraining order?

What good do you think that piece of paper is gonna do?

Get a shooter.


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By Stich
From Colorado Springs, Colorado
Jun 2, 2008
Coffee after freezing our asses off near James Peak.

From Mike's profile:


"I'm a very happy person,most of the time:)plum psycho the rest!I have been single for seven years,god hates me!"

Okaaaaay.


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By Richard Radcliffe
From Louisville, CO
Jun 2, 2008

Brings a whole new meaning to "bolt wars".


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By Stich
From Colorado Springs, Colorado
Jun 2, 2008
Coffee after freezing our asses off near James Peak.

Better go talk with the sheriff. It sounds like he already committed assault and there were witnesses. Better yet, he describes hitting that one guy in the sternum. Those people should file charges. Get the ball rolling.


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By Braxtron
From ...
Jun 2, 2008
Nearing the end of Escuelar de calor, a great route!

At least he picked a fitting username.


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By Dirty Gri Gri, or is it GiGi?
From Vegas
Jun 2, 2008
Starting up Toe Jam in Joshua Tree. What a fun, mellow route with good pro! Makes me like J-Tree more. ; ) <br /> <br />[Feb. 2013]

Wyoming Statutes


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By dbyte
From Carbondale, CO
Jun 2, 2008
I wish I could fly...

Being from New England this story reminds me somewhat of Ken Nichols & his vigilante chopping tactics. Over time locals became more organized & engaged local municipalities/landowners/police/etc in stopping Ken once & for all. You may want to contact the Western Mass Climbers Coalition for information on how they went about the process. I know a LOT of effort was put in by a LOT of people to get it done.

I imagine it wouldn't be too hard to get officials on your side if this guy is openly threatening people & climbing areas on the Internet & already has a record of assaulting people.


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By Stich
From Colorado Springs, Colorado
Jun 2, 2008
Coffee after freezing our asses off near James Peak.

Getting together as a group is key to addressing this problem.


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By Gary Mc
From Grand Junction
Jun 2, 2008
Arsenic Canyon, Behave State

Tim Stich wrote:
Getting together as a group is key to addressing this problem.


It's also key when forming a posse.

Seriously though, I'd find it hard to believe that the local DA wouldn't at have an interest in the violent and threatening rants.


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By Stich
From Colorado Springs, Colorado
Jun 2, 2008
Coffee after freezing our asses off near James Peak.

Gary Mc wrote:
It's also key when forming a posse. Seriously though, I'd find it hard to believe that the local DA wouldn't at have an interest in the violent and threatening rants.


I kind of doubt it ever made it that far.


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By Larry
From SoAZ
Jun 2, 2008

Why delete your post grappler? I was about to refer some friends who are traveling to Tensleep to your post. Now I can't.


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By kirra
Jun 2, 2008
Stan Marsh South Park CO. <br />We only have 1shot at this <br />because 'Kenny' is not comin' back

hmmm... interesting

my "history" link to the myspace article prior posted has now been set to "private" - and no longer allowed to view the f'n profanity rant

grappler have you been personally threatened..?


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By grappler
From Fort Collins, CO
Jun 3, 2008

the guy has pulled his myspace page

and I am realizing that if I scare people away from traveling here then the psycho wins.

its a tricky situation. the solution is getting alot of people to go to the area, not scaring them away.

he's all talk, very scary talk, but still just talk.

sheriff said that the online threats were not specific enough.


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By Stich
From Colorado Springs, Colorado
Jun 3, 2008
Coffee after freezing our asses off near James Peak.

Well now that he pulled his page, the incriminating evidence of the assault is gone. And you of course deleted the copy in the first post. All in all, not a very good start.

The guy punches someone in the sternum and that's not enough? That's assault. Period. The guy that got punched should press charges, especially since he had witnesses. Of course if everyone wants to just forget about it, that's their choice. At that point no one can complain anymore.


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By Tradster
Jun 3, 2008

Maybe when he punched the guy, a trad rack down his throat would have been appropriate. Perhaps he should have received a little lesson right then in personal space reality.


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By Bill Ballace
From Pullman,WA
Jun 3, 2008

So what happened?? I am confused, could someone fill me in on what happened?


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By grappler
From Fort Collins, CO
Jun 3, 2008

I saved a screen shot of the original myspace page when it was forwarded to me that has all text. And I know that at least one bolter has now begun paper work for a restraining order. Question is will it spiral out of control?


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By grappler
From Fort Collins, CO
Jun 3, 2008

The guy that got punched in 2006 did press charges and they stuck. Battery and disturbing the peace.

No incidents since then except for these his internet rants about having successfully cleared the canyon of "outsiders"


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By kirra
Jun 3, 2008
Stan Marsh South Park CO. <br />We only have 1shot at this <br />because 'Kenny' is not comin' back

grappler thanks for coming back and following up. Interesting he pulled his page, do you think he follows these forums ..?

what's it to hurt if you put your personal post back up at least to alert folks like Bill who are now wondering wtf..? It's good to alert everyone of the situation. I had planned to take a trip up there before knowing this and I'll still go but it's good info to be aware of

re something "spiraling out of control" - Sounds like this guy is extremely emotional and fixed in his position. Unfortunately it may have to come to that unless someone can reason with him to cool him down
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  • edit ~ thanks for re-posting grappler :)


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By Stich
From Colorado Springs, Colorado
Jun 3, 2008
Coffee after freezing our asses off near James Peak.

grappler wrote:
The guy that got punched in 2006 did press charges and they stuck. Battery and disturbing the peace


Good. You left that out of your original post. So did Mike have to pay any fines? Jail time? Community service?


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By grappler
From Fort Collins, CO
Jun 3, 2008

not sure.

he knows now that he can get caught so hopefully thats enough to keep him in hiding.


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By Christian
From Tucson, Az
Jun 3, 2008

I think I found his webpage again

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paranoid_personality_disorder


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By Dave Brower
From cs co
Jun 3, 2008
at bird rock

Oh man, this ain't funny, I saw that my-space page.

The picture of the dude posing with an assult
rifle, combined with his history, plus his crazy
ranting and everything...

I would treat this thing rather seriously, too many
times in the past we have seen this kind of sh*t
errupt into violence. The above advice about
"saftey in number" sounds good.

He states on his blog that he started taking "happy pills"
(anti-depressents) and he said they really helped him,
I wonder if he quit taking them.

-Sad


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By Buff Johnson
Jun 3, 2008
 In a zoo in California, a mother tiger gave birth to a rare set of triplet tiger cubs.    Unfortunately, due to complications in the pregnancy, the cubs were born prematurely and due to their tiny size, they died shortly after birth.  <br /> <br />The mother tiger after recovering from the delivery, suddenly started to decline in health, although physically she was fine. The veterinarians felt that the loss of her litter had caused the tigress to fall into a depression. The doctors decided that if the tigress could surrogate another mother's cubs, perhaps she would improve.  <br /> <br />After checking with many other zoos across the country, the depressing news was that there were no tiger cubs of the right age to introduce to the mourning  mother. The veterinarians decided to try something that had never been  tried in a zoo environment. Sometimes a mother of one species will take on the care of a different species. The only "orphans" that could be found quickly, were a litter of weaner pigs.  The zoo keepers and vets wrapped the piglets in tiger skin and placed the babies around the mother tiger. <br />

Also, don't forget the Castle Rock PD one that went to the US Supreme Court:

www.oyez.org/cases/2000-2009/2004/2004_04_278/

The restraining order is really a pointless item when it comes to self-defense. Though, I'd have to say I think a person isn't really acting outside of the law when defending themselves. If someone attacks a person in a public park, I feel the attacker's threat can be ended by whatever means necessary by anyone.


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By kirra
Jun 3, 2008
Stan Marsh South Park CO. <br />We only have 1shot at this <br />because 'Kenny' is not comin' back

John Langston wrote:
A can of bear spray should be more than adequate.

got a few of those & don't leave home without 'em

had a roomate once that became crazed and unpredictable. You could see signs & I started looking for another place but couldn't get out fast enough. One day I came home to all of the locks on the apt changed. Because I didn't have a new key or signed lease agreement with me - the police could do nothing to help me get my stuff back

Sometimes you can throw off the mentally unstable by pretending to be more insane then they are. Opposite reactions to what they are expecting sometimes can lead to results desired. I eventually got most of my stuff back minus a few pairs o'shoes


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