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Mar 4, 2013
everyone jumps all over Ivan for chipping a hold underneath a tiny pebble in the woods that nobody has been to or even knows where its at

R&I runs an article practically glamorizing the folks in Riggins Idaho for chipping and drilling a complete crag and nobody says a thing until now.

crazy world
T Roper
From DC,VA,NM,UT,CT,MA
Joined Mar 31, 2006
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Mar 4, 2013
David Sahalie wrote:
Lets ask Dead Point Magazine to release the Idaho chippers phone number and address so we can stalk him like Ivan! They could post a chipper of the month and the Ethics Police can go harass them. Fun!


DPM did not release his phone number. It was a comment someone posted on their article and they deleted it.
D B
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Mar 4, 2013
You clearly implied it. D B
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Mar 5, 2013
I guess an entire crag is less important than a pebble.

Maybe Rock and Ice will do an article on Ivans chipped boulder ascent next month.

I can see the the new tech tip of the month----> "how to create natural looking holds on blank rock"
T Roper
From DC,VA,NM,UT,CT,MA
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Mar 5, 2013
Rock Climbing Photo: Sunset @ Josh
TRmasta wrote:
I guess an entire crag is less important than a pebble. Maybe Rock and Ice will do an article on Ivans chipped boulder ascent next month. I can the the new tech tip of the month----> "how to create natural looking holds on blank rock"


Hahaha... so u wanna chip somewhere in CT this weekend I might be around...
Morgan Patterson
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Mar 5, 2013
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I think everyone would be just as upset if someone released a video of someone drilling holes at Riggons. As for the whole crag, no, it's the whole, just 3 routes through the steepest part of the wall (completely devoid of holds). And people were upset about this YEARS ago and have just forgotten about it.

Here are some other areas with blatant chipped holds:
-Rifle
-Smith
-Mt Charleston
-Red Rocks
-Maple

I think the real reason that people are so upset about Ivan is that they just didnt like him and now they have justification for this feeling.
Ryan Palo
From Bend, oregon
Joined Aug 18, 2006
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Mar 5, 2013
Ryan Palo wrote:
I think the real reason that people are so upset about Ivan is that they just didnt like him and now they have justification for this feeling.


You don't think the fact that he is the author of the bouldering guidebook has a little something to do with it? Suggesting that it's all because people just don't like Ivan strikes me as defending him.

Rightly or wrongly, we tend to hold our "commuity leaders" to a higher standard. And of course the hypocrisy, vis-a-vis the anti-chipping statements in that guidebook, has already been pointed out.

A bit reminiscent of Jonathan Thesenga (senior editor of Climbing mag) pouring flaming gasoline down the boulders in Josh several years ago.
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