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I went for a hike in the Flatirons the other day and had a look at the route Watchmaker steady. It kinda looks like those holds were chiseled seeing as they don't look anything like any of the other features on the rock. Not only that but for a few body lengths the route looks very ladder like, and yet this route is not on the manufactured routes list. Is it natural?

Access to Shunk and Shadow Canyon will also be affected by the OSMP visitor plan. Please review the plan's details and phone/email the council members about your concerns.

Guy- you are mistaken. Shadow and Skunk Canyon are not in the proposed HCA areas. The affected areas include Eldorado Mountain and the west side of Boulder/Green Mountains.

See the map of the management zones (the HCAs colored green are the areas closed to off-trail use) at:

www.ci.boulder.co.us/openspace/visitor_plan/V-Plan-Draft-Map>>>

AC, I found the following comment in the pointer listed below.

"Implement a permit system for climbs in lower Skunk Canyon and south of Shadow Canyon." pg15

www.ci.boulder.co.us/openspace/visitor_plan/V-Plan-PDFs/refe>>>

I am really not sure which areas would be affected by this permit system, or whether this document is part of the VMP.

Someone recently ticked the hell out of Milk Bone. Giant, foot long ticks clearly visible from the trail. Overticking is super lame to begin with and draws attention to the crag and our scene which we need to keep super low key so we can keep this new-routing thing going. Someone has had their draws on this route for over a month now. Whoever it is please remove your draws so we don't attract negative flack from hikers or rangers. If you need to hang the draws it is easy to 4th class to the summit of Dino from the west and do a short rap off a giant flake to the anchors. And be cool to hikers no matter what retarded yum-yums they are.

Two new applications have come in so far for the September 15 cycle (close of the deadline) for the Flatirons Fixed Hardware Review Committee. Others might come along in the next month or two, as well.

Please go here to leave comments: flatironsclimbingcouncil.wordpress.com/category/route-applic>>>

Date of the public meeting/vote to be announced in September.

The Fixed Hardware Review Committee of the Flatirons Climbing Council will hold its public meeting Wednesday, October 20, at 6 p.m. at The Spot gym, Boulder, Colorado, to discuss and vote on applications for the autumn 2010 cycle. Anyone interested is invited to come participate and cast votes for the three proposals, which can be found here: flatironsclimbingcouncil.wordpress.com/category/route-applic>>>

The Fixed Hardware Review Committee of the Flatirons Climbing Council will hold its public meeting Wednesday, July 6, at 7 p.m. at The Spot Gym, Boulder, Colorado, to discuss and vote on applications for the June 2011 cycle. Anyone interested is invited to come participate and cast votes for the three proposals (one of which is on Dinosaur Rock), which can be found here: flatironsclimbingcouncil.wordpress.com/category/route-applic>>>.
You can also leave comments on the proposed applications at the above link.