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By Joseph P. Crotty
From Broomfield, CO
Apr 25, 2014
Maltese cross.

Clear Creek Canyon's Sucking My Will to Live at Primo Wall will will be CLOSED April 26-27 so bolts three, four and the anchor can be replaced. Thank you all in advance for you understanding while this maintenance event takes place.


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By ChefMattThaner
From Lakewood, co
Apr 25, 2014
ducking ropes at Copper

Thank you so much for your hard work!


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By Travis24
Apr 25, 2014
lobbing in Independence Pass

Bump for the local denver climbers.


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By Joseph P. Crotty
From Broomfield, CO
Apr 25, 2014
Maltese cross.

Another bump as folks are no doubt planning weekend climbing right now.


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By Phil Lauffen
From The Bubble
Apr 25, 2014
RMNP skiing. Photo by Nodin de Saillan

Awwww c'mon man! What else am I supposed to climb?! Why can't you guys do this in the dark?

/sarcasm

Thanks Joe!


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By reboot
From Westminster, CO
Apr 25, 2014

Phil Lauffen wrote:
Awwww c'mon man! What else am I supposed to climb?! Why can't you guys do this in the dark?

You can always put in a few extra hours for the "man" over the weekend. That oughta accomplish the same goal.


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By Mark E Dixon
From Sprezzatura, Someday
Apr 25, 2014
At the BRC

ChefMattThaner wrote:
Thank you so much for your hard work!


ChefMattThaner also wrote:
"You bad ass you Mark, tell us all more about your garbage leaving treks in Nepal again! Please!!! I may not ever end up going because I may end up not being capable of doing this. But I will try and for that is what really matters. I may not ever get above 8000m in my life, like the vast majority of mountaineers. But at least I can say I did not desecrate a perfectly natural area with my trash and pollutants trying to get there."


Isn't there an evil fixed rope across Clear Creek?


To the OP- thanks, looking forward to enjoying the new bolts despite the dire environmental impact. Sorry to muck up your thread but I just couldn't help myself, villain that I am.


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By slim
Administrator
Apr 25, 2014
tomato, tomotto, kill mike amato.

reboot wrote:
You can always put in a few extra hours for the "man" over the weekend. That oughta accomplish the same goal.


that sounds kinda dirty. did i read that right?


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By Phil Lauffen
From The Bubble
Apr 25, 2014
RMNP skiing. Photo by Nodin de Saillan

slim wrote:
that sounds kinda dirty. did i read that right?


Why? You want my number too?


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By ChefMattThaner
From Lakewood, co
Apr 25, 2014
ducking ropes at Copper

Mark E Dixon wrote:
ChefMattThaner also wrote: "You bad ass you Mark, tell us all more about your garbage leaving treks in Nepal again! Please!!! I may not ever end up going because I may end up not being capable of doing this. But I will try and for that is what really matters. I may not ever get above 8000m in my life, like the vast majority of mountaineers. But at least I can say I did not desecrate a perfectly natural area with my trash and pollutants trying to get there." Isn't there an evil fixed rope across Clear Creek?



So you are comparing thousands of pounds of garbage and dozens of dead bodies to a tyrol???


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By Mark E Dixon
From Sprezzatura, Someday
Apr 25, 2014
At the BRC

ChefMattThaner wrote:
So you are comparing thousands of pounds of garbage and dozens of dead bodies to a tyrol???


The sanctity of Clear Creek means a lot to me


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By SDY
Apr 25, 2014

ChefMattThaner wrote:
So you are comparing thousands of pounds of garbage and dozens of dead bodies to a tyrol???



Sounds like you need a little refresher. Here ya go,

https://lnt.org/learn/7-principles


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By ChefMattThaner
From Lakewood, co
Apr 25, 2014
ducking ropes at Copper

SDY wrote:
Sounds like you need a little refresher. Here ya go, https://lnt.org/learn/7-principles



So you are also dumb enough to try and compare dozens of dead bodies and THOUSANDS UPON THOUSANDS of pounds of trash to a tyrol???

Please continue to cock up a perfectly decent thread letting people know about someone putting forth effort to make climbing better for others. You guys are all class.


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By ChefMattThaner
From Lakewood, co
Apr 25, 2014
ducking ropes at Copper

How about instead of thread jacking this outstanding example of selflessness. Either of you want to hash this out over a beer, please feel free to come down to my restaurant. I am the Executive Chef at Great Northern in DTC. I work 5 days a week so just let me know when works best for you. I'm sure we can educate each other on a few finer points of life.


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By Buff Johnson
Apr 26, 2014
smiley face

Mark E Dixon wrote:
The sanctity of Clear Creek means a lot to me


exactly

I woulda just replaced the bolts and had some lunch without batting the proj eye.

my wilderness experience all that fluffy bunny bs


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By Mark E Dixon
From Sprezzatura, Someday
Apr 26, 2014
At the BRC

ChefMattThaner wrote:
How about instead of thread jacking this outstanding example of selflessness. Either of you want to hash this out over a beer, please feel free to come down to my restaurant. I am the Executive Chef at Great Northern in DTC. I work 5 days a week so just let me know when works best for you. I'm sure we can educate each other on a few finer points of life.


I don't know...I don't want to jump to conclusions, but you sound a little hot tempered :-)

Plus I've got a pretty busy desecrating schedule.

Anyway, bumping this thread to the front page is probably a public service.


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By Joseph P. Crotty
From Broomfield, CO
Apr 26, 2014
Maltese cross.

bump for Sunday climbers


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By Joseph P. Crotty
From Broomfield, CO
Apr 27, 2014
Maltese cross.

Another bump for the Sunday morning sport crews contemplating a gamble against the weather.


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By Jon Zucco
From Denver, CO
Apr 27, 2014
yaak crack Red Rock Canyon, NV

SDY wrote:
Sounds like you need a little refresher. Here ya go, https://lnt.org/learn/7-principles


hehehe -- nice one


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By Locker
From Yucca Valley, CA
Apr 27, 2014
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Re-bolting isn't easy work. Anyone that doesn't appreciate the effort of someone taking it upon themselves to make a route safer for the rest of us is an asshole. (Just my opinion)




Good deal on you doing the work!

Much appreciated! (Even though I no longer live over that way)


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By Jon Zucco
From Denver, CO
Apr 27, 2014
yaak crack Red Rock Canyon, NV

It's sort of another thread bleeding into this one, Locker. I don't think anyone is upset about sucking getting new hardware. Thanks to the OP for sure.


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By Mark E Dixon
From Sprezzatura, Someday
Apr 27, 2014
At the BRC

Locker wrote:
Re-bolting isn't easy work. Anyone that doesn't appreciate the effort of someone taking it upon themselves to make a route safer for the rest of us is an asshole. (Just my opinion) Good deal on you doing the work! Much appreciated! (Even though I no longer live over that way)


Hope you're not referring to me with this statement. Seems like everyone posting really appreciates Joe's efforts.
I know I do.
I helped with the Anarchy rebolting last year (although it seemed more like I was just in the way of the people who knew what they were doing!) so I know how much thankless work is involved.

As Jon says, the silliness between Matt and myself is all a bleed over from this thread www.mountainproject.com/v/13-dead-on-everest/108866949


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By Locker
From Yucca Valley, CA
Apr 27, 2014
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"Hope you're not referring to me with this statement"

I wasn't. It was a GENERAL statement to one and ALL!


But really, what would you do if I had been?



;-)


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By Mark E Dixon
From Sprezzatura, Someday
Apr 27, 2014
At the BRC

Locker wrote:
"Hope you're not referring to me with this statement" I wasn't. It was a GENERAL statement to one and ALL! But really, what would you do if I had been? ;-)


Clear up the misunderstanding by swearing my undying gratitude to route equippers.

I'm planning on hanging all over those new bolts as soon as possible. You can believe I appreciate it!


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By Locker
From Yucca Valley, CA
Apr 27, 2014
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Too many don't take the time to show their appreciation to those that bolt and re-bolt. More often than not, it's taken for granted.

My favorite are the complainers that have never placed a single bolt.

That the dude here posted the info in advance also seems like a nice thing to do.

"All is well on the homefront".


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By Joseph P. Crotty
From Broomfield, CO
Apr 27, 2014
Maltese cross.

Work is complete and it'll be ready for action again tomorrow AM. Lead bolts two, three and four upgraded from Rawl 3/8" plated three piece sleeve to SS glue-ins. See the SMWTL fixed hardware section for details. All three of the original holes were re-used.

Closure sign
Closure sign


Lead bolt two. SS glue-in re-used original hole.
Lead bolt two. SS glue-in re-used original hole.


Lead bolt three re-used original hole.. Beefy SS 16mm glue-in w/ 12mm ring. Plenty of room for clipping a short draw and the kitchen sink for the uber dogger. <br /> <br />I tested out other theoretical bolt locations as the current one interferes with those utilizing the pinch. But, everything else had at least one draw back so I left it as is.
Lead bolt three re-used original hole.. Beefy SS 16mm glue-in w/ 12mm ring. Plenty of room for clipping a short draw and the kitchen sink for the uber dogger.

I tested out other theoretical bolt locations as the current one interferes with those utilizing the pinch. But, everything else had at least one draw back so I left it as is.


Old lead bolt four. Rawl 3/8" plated. Upgraded to SS glue-in.
Old lead bolt four. Rawl 3/8" plated. Upgraded to SS glue-in.


Old vs new stuff. The cones on the old ones showing plenty of rust. Bolt two and four were fairly loose.
Old vs new stuff. The cones on the old ones showing plenty of rust. Bolt two and four were fairly loose.


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