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By Stich
From Colorado Springs, Colorado
Apr 20, 2012
Coffee after freezing our asses off near James Peak.

steve edwards wrote:
I don't know what you people are talking about. That video is AWE SOME. I'm not sure Bear is ready for Captain Kirk but I'd pay good money to see him in The Open against these guys: C'mon, man. Let's go do some toproping!


Dude, I got all sorts of chills. That synthpop beat just cuts right into you. Those guys are way too rad for me. I love the shot of the mountain bike tumbling down the hill sans rider. What could have happened? It's like, you have to know!

The bear was clearly just bear 46 looking for some Twinkies.


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By Tyson Anderson
From Las Vegas, NV
Apr 20, 2012
Rapping from the top of Cat in the hat

Bear and his antics have contributed to the death of at least one person: www.lasvegassun.com/news/2010/sep/28/tracks-left-missing-tee>>>


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By Dirty Gri Gri, or is it GiGi?
From Vegas
Apr 20, 2012
Growing a winter coat in Red Rock Canyon- December 2013.

That was terrible, I remember when folks were looking for him. He was new to our desert from the east coast. Really sad story.


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By fat cow
From Salinas, CA
Apr 20, 2012
perfect seam

British SAS make the navy seals and marines look like girl scouts. Was the youngest person to ever climb Everest, thats pretty BA, even with a load of sherpas. his show is for the arm chair outdoorsy type, so he does some lame shit, like hopping from rocks like a frog. but for the most part, dudes a bad motha


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By "H"
From Manitou Springs
Apr 20, 2012
Axes glistening in the sun

I'm jealous. I want to change my name to Bear or maybe just Grizzly.


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By Stich
From Colorado Springs, Colorado
Apr 20, 2012
Coffee after freezing our asses off near James Peak.

HBL wrote:
I'm jealous. I want to change my name to Bear or maybe just Grizzly.


How about Grizzly Man? Oh, wait. Nevermind.



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By Stich
From Colorado Springs, Colorado
Apr 20, 2012
Coffee after freezing our asses off near James Peak.

fat cow wrote:
British SAS make the navy seals and marines look like girl scouts.


Oh the Hell they do. You ever sell Girl Scout cookies at an east side ghetto Walmart? Think you tough? Shiiiii.


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By Jake Jones
From Richmond, VA
Apr 20, 2012
Me and the offspring walking back to the car after a day of cragging.

fat cow wrote:
British SAS make the navy seals and marines look like girl scouts.


I disagree. I think they're about the same (SAS and SEALs) giving SEALs the advantage in waterborne missions. I've trained with both. I certainly wouldn't tell any of the SEALs (one of whom I climb with on a semi-regular basis) that they are girl scouts next to the SAS.

Comparing Marines to either of these two is like comparing apples and oranges. The Marine Corps infantry (I'm assuming that's what you're referring to), although still pretty bad ass isn't a small, specialized unit with a seemingly bottomless budget. Now, if you're talking about Marine Force Recon, the USMC equivalent to SEALs or SAS, you'd be hard pressed to find a more badass group. Each has its own niche.

Compared to regular Army grunts though, I give the Marine infantry the advantage because they are a much smaller unit as a whole, and they too specialize in amphibious operations. Apologies in advance for thread drift.


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By Ben Beckerich
From saint helens, oregon
Apr 20, 2012
About half way up the East Arete on Illumination Rock

I'm guessing he'll never do that again. This really is a pretty big embarrassment.. I actually feel bad for him. I hope he reads all those youtube comments, sees the "like"s to "dislike"s ratio, and decides to commit his career to authenticity.


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By fat cow
From Salinas, CA
Apr 20, 2012
perfect seam

muttonface wrote:
I disagree. I think they're about the same (SAS and SEALs) giving SEALs the advantage in waterborne missions. I've trained with both. I certainly wouldn't tell any of the SEALs (one of whom I climb with on a semi-regular basis) that they are girl scouts next to the SAS. Comparing Marines to either of these two is like comparing apples and oranges. The Marine Corps infantry (I'm assuming that's what you're referring to), although still pretty bad ass isn't a small, specialized unit with a seemingly bottomless budget. Now, if you're talking about Marine Force Recon, the USMC equivalent to SEALs or SAS, you'd be hard pressed to find a more badass group. Each has its own niche.


haha i was just kidding dude. i heard that in a movie recently and thought it was pretty damn funny. Force Recon are probably the least well known bad ass special forces in the military. I work with a guy everyday who's recon and the training sounds awesome, though the big green weinie always makes things sound that way, then they suck any possible fun right out whatever you are doing.


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By Mike Wysuph
From Broomfield, CO
Apr 20, 2012

Ben B. wrote:
This really is a pretty big embarrassment..


-1

It's a commercial whose primary purpose was to increase brand awareness. I'd say mission accomplished!


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By Jake Jones
From Richmond, VA
Apr 20, 2012
Me and the offspring walking back to the car after a day of cragging.

fat cow wrote:
haha i was just kidding dude. i heard that in a movie recently and thought it was pretty damn funny. Force Recon are probably the least well known bad ass special forces in the military. I work with a guy everyday who's recon and the training sounds awesome, though the big green weinie always makes things sound that way, then they suck any possible fun right out whatever you are doing.


+1 Sounds like you've been there too. I haven't heard the big green weenie euphemism in a loooong time.


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By P.K.
Apr 20, 2012



Can I get a high fashion?


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By Ben Beckerich
From saint helens, oregon
Apr 20, 2012
About half way up the East Arete on Illumination Rock

Mike Wysuph wrote:
-1 It's a commercial whose primary purpose was to increase brand awareness. I'd say mission accomplished!


That doesn't make it any less embarrassing, though. I'd be humiliated... but I'm not a commercial doosh.


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By Billy Young
From Colorado Springs, CO
Apr 20, 2012
Me

Bear and his antics have contributed to the death of at least one person: www.lasvegassun.com/news/2010/sep/28/tracks-left-missing-tee>>>

I don't fully understand what this exactly has to do with Man vs. Wild.

It's bear's fault because this person liked his show?


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By ThreeDee
From colorado springs, co
Apr 20, 2012

I read the article as well and agree with John and Billy. Even though I think he is an asshat, you can't blame Bear for someone's poor decisions just because they liked his show. That's like saying that its beer's fault people get DUI's or it's car's fault you get speeding tickets. People need to accept responsibility for their action and stop try to pass the blame.


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By Sam Lightner, Jr.
From Lander, WY
Apr 20, 2012
The Shield

I have it on good authority that when Bear was doing his "Lost in the Utah Desert" show, he spent his nights at the Gonzo Inn. A number of local climbers did the rigging for him so he could safely get up and down things.

BTW, you wanna laugh and your from the southeast, watch Bear trying to find his way out of Little River Canyon... pretty hard to film that one and not get houses in the shot.


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By Tyson Anderson
From Las Vegas, NV
Apr 20, 2012
Rapping from the top of Cat in the hat

Billy Young wrote:
Bear and his antics have contributed to the death of at least one person: www.lasvegassun.com/news/2010/sep/28/tracks-left-missing-tee>>> I don't fully understand what this exactly has to do with Man vs. Wild. It's bear's fault because this person liked his show?


I said "contributed to" not caused because there were many other factors at play. Sadly, some people do take his show seriously and he offers them many bad ideas about how to handle wilderness situations.


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By fat cow
From Salinas, CA
Apr 20, 2012
perfect seam

Tyson Anderson wrote:
I said "contributed to" not caused because there were many other factors at play. Sadly, some people do take his show seriously and he offers them many bad ideas about how to handle wilderness situations.



fuck no. he did not contribute, it's a television show. if you watch a crocodile wrestling show then go and try to wrangle some crocs using the 'tactics' they profess, then that is your choice. how about personal responsibility.


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By Buff Johnson
Apr 20, 2012
smiley face

I can accept that, but he should also make it clear what he's doing is totally staged, the only thing he's representing professionally is being an entertainer, and that what he is doing is solely for the entertainment purposes of a camera audience.


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By Billy Young
From Colorado Springs, CO
Apr 20, 2012
Me

No disrespect, but I'm keeping my opinion.

No one should be getting their survival training from a TV show. Period.

Bear and his show was an inspiration to me. I am afraid of heights and I started rock climbing partly to combat those fears. Since then, I am so happy for all the fun times I have had climbing with friends.

Anything that gets kids to turn off their video games and get outside of the house and doing something is okay by me.

I'm not going to sit here and site stuff to compare but,

I read an article a while back where a lost boy left pieces of his shirt or something on tree branches to direct the rescue team in his direction. A midst all the exciting entertainment stuff are some real tips that, just from memory, someone might use in real world bad situation. (ie. arranging stones or sticks to point in the direction you traveled, leaving scraps so rescuers can follow your path, fashioning snow shoes out of branches)


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By blind cantaloupe
Apr 20, 2012
through the crux, which could be convoluted because the hardest part of this climb is hanging on sharp jugs for thirty feet

Peter Franzen wrote:
I honestly didn't see too much in that video that was egregiously tool-ish. A great TV producer and camera crew could take any of us out on our best days and have a finished product a few weeks later that make us look just as bad, or worse. The next time you're chilling to some reggae and smoking a cig at the bottom of a climb try to imagine how ridiculous it'd look in high-definition slow motion with a voiceover. So fine-- he TR'd a big route in the desert with a film crew. That's more than most weekend-warrior climbers will ever do. The guy may be totally over the top on his show, but there isn't too much doubt that he has a legitimate background in doing some pretty out-there stuff.


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By Tony B
From Around Boulder, CO
Apr 20, 2012
Got Milk? How about forearm pump? Tony leads "Alan Nelson's Bulging Belly" (5.10, X) on the Lost and Found Flatiron. Belayer is Mark Ruocco. Photo by Bill Wright, 10/06.

Can we all agree on anything?
We can't even seem to all agree that climbing is great.


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By Jim Davidson
From Fort Collins, Colorado
Apr 20, 2012

I think we can all agree that we can't all seem to agree on anything! :)


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By Ben Beckerich
From saint helens, oregon
Apr 20, 2012
About half way up the East Arete on Illumination Rock

Tony B wrote:
Can we all agree on anything? We can't even seem to all agree that climbing is great.


Climbing isn't "great" bra. It fucking sucks. I only do it because I can't stand flat stuff.


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