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Thin Ice 

5.10b

   

FA: FA: Johnson & Heath - 1975
FFA: Steres & Clark - 1976
Type: Trad
Consensus: 5.10b [details]
Length: 3 pitches
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Submitted By: Josh Janes on Jun 18, 2006


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P1 - Photogenic as all heck.


Description 

This is a challenging, physical route up the center of the east face of the Sorcerer. It is also the easiest way up the rock.

P1: Begin at the left of two massive right-facing flake/corners (the right is the start to Atlantis. Ascend this corner until it turns into a splitter crack and continue up. Eventually traverse right to the next crack system on some ramping flake features and up to a bolted belay. A long pitch; 5.10-.

P2: Continue up the crack system; 5.9 hands.

P3: The angle relents, but the climbing becomes very strenuous as the crack system turns into a flaring V-slot; 5.9+.

Descend to the north; see the description for the Sorcerer for more details.


Protection 

Double set of cams.



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P2 - A polished frustrating vee.

P2 - A polished frustrating vee.

Thin Ice.  Photo by AJ Burch.

Thin Ice. Photo by AJ Burch.

Unknown climber on 'Thin Ice'

Unknown climber on 'Thin Ice'

Greg Jackson sinking fingers on the first pitch of 'Thin Ice'

Greg Jackson sinking fingers on the first pitch of...

A good look at the spectacular 1st pitch, Greg Jackson climbing

A good look at the spectacular 1st pitch, Greg Jac...

Alissa on Thin Ice.

Alissa on Thin Ice.


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By Chris Owen
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From: La Crescenta, CA
Nov 4, 2006

Pitch 2 totally spanked me - I've never done anything quite like it. Perhaps I did it wrong...and I don't remeber P3 being particularly strenuous. Old age perhaps.

By Michael Sokoloff
May 23, 2007

Pitches 2 and 3 can be combined with a 60 meter rope. Makes for a real long and strenuous pitch of climbing. If you do this, be very cognizant of rope drag.

I personally believe that the crux of the route comes right off the second belay despite the fact that that pitch is rated easier (5.9) than the previous pitch (5.10-). Won't say anymore about it; just don't think your difficulties are over just because you completed the hardest rated pitch.

By Scotty Nelson
From: San Diego
Jun 24, 2007

Pitch 2: the trick to getting past the flared V is to layback the edge of the crack. It's kind of scary, but the easiest way. Directly jamming the groove looks burly.

By Fat Dad
May 6, 2008

Speaking from personal experience, directly jamming the v-groove sucks. Though normally a reserved climber, everyone on the adjacent spires had no problems hearing my frustration on this section.

By Eric Rhicard
May 6, 2008

My buddy worked his tail off there too. I didn't find it that bad but I have better technique than he does. wink wink

By Jonathan Howland
Jun 27, 2008

A team ahead of us was rapping from the end of P1, advertising they "heard P2 isn't that good." Pardon the hyperbolic comparison, but this is like doing the Enduro Corner and blowing off the Harding Slot (not that I have). Thin Ice is all the better for the ways the ice suddenly thickens, P2 requiring altogether different skills.
My two cents: do the route in two long pitches (so long as you're comfortable with running it out a bit on 5.8/9 handcracks -- the last sections of each pitch).
The crux of P1 protects nicely with stoppers and small cams and involves face-climbing around the crack as much as not.
The crux of P2, so abundantly documented above, is right off the belay, but then it keeps going. The liebackers are 5.12 climbers or, at the least, top-ropers. My angle: snug finger-locks with right hand; right toe in the corner/crack; left foot and knee in a kind of scummy knee-bar (see photo #2). Add a couple of comfortable stem stances and some chimneying and voila, a birth of the old-fashioned, grinding type.
Belay below the summit (just above the Sentinel Oak) for protection from that Needles sirocco.