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Pinky And The Brain 

5.9

   

FA: (TR) George Zelenz 1990, FL: Todd Gordon, Grant Hiskes & Suzette Olsen
Type: Sport
Consensus: 5.9 [details]
Length: 1 pitch, 90 feet
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Submitted By: Locker on Sep 6, 2003


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5.10b4me just past the crux (the step across)


Description 

Approach as for Isles In The Sky but continue walking around to the south face of the formation; turn the corner and you'll see a tall, well-featured face which is the route.

The climbing is up large plates and edges, and while the rock is mostly solid it hasn't seen much traffic and is still cleaning up some.


Protection 

10 bolts, bolted anchor/rap. Some long slings are helpful. 60m rope needed.



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By David Evans
Sep 15, 2003

This route is rated in Todd's "5.8 deserves more respect" 5.8 rating. More like 5.9 or 10a. Similar to the "5.8's" at Outer Mongolia.

By Steven Powers
Sep 15, 2003

Respectfully, i think you are very, very wrong about this climbs grade and the one's in mongolia, ive done this climb a number of times and there is no hint of 5.9 or 10a. what about all the dave evans sandbags around jtree? this climb is great a great lead for the begining 5.8 leader, super safe and kinda long.

By Randy
Sep 16, 2003
rating: 5.9

This route was called "George's TR" in Alan Bartlett's Pinto Basin guide (it was a top rope route; FA: George Zelenz, 90). It was later bolted and led by: Todd Gordon, Grant Hiskes & Suzette Olsen. Originally rated 5.10, it is probably solid 5.9. 10 bolts, 1 fixed pin(?) and 2 bolt anchor. So DE's comments about the rating are probably right on.

It is located on the southeast side of the Isle In The Sky formation (around and left of the main northeast face) on a block on the lower right side (to the right of and down from Hidden Corridor).

Locker: If you are going to go to the trouble to list a route, perhaps a better/more complete description and location would be in order.

2 out of 5

By Locker
Sep 16, 2003

Randy, I saw the (?) mark after "One fixed pin" on Pinky and the Brain and yes there is just the one. We used it and it felt solid.

By Steven Powers
Sep 16, 2003

okay to end the argument respectfully, Randy i notice that when you say the route is 5.9 you use the word "probably" i take this to mean you have not done the route, if you have im sorry but if you call that solid 5.9 there are a lot of grades you need to fix in your guide. if you want to go do the route ill go out there with you any time, you posted all the other info Todd gave you so why dont you belive him when he says it's 5.8?

By David Evans
Sep 18, 2003

Since ratings are subjective and determined by the vagueness and variety of anatomy, psych and weather we are all right. Pinky and the Brain is 5.8, 5.9 and or 5.10a (pick 3 or less).

By 5.10b4me
From: Alhambra, California
Sep 21, 2003

just did this route. I feel this route is 5.8 if you climb the crack atthe start. If you stick to the face it may go 5.9. the tricky step across at the fourth bolt is probably 5.8, although I felt there was a move up higher that was actually harder

By Anonymous Coward
Oct 23, 2003

For what it's worth, my original TR went a bit right of the bolted route. Two different routes?

Who cares.

It's all 5.0 till you fall.

George Zelenz

By Gary Kleiger
Mar 29, 2004
rating: 5.8+

Fair to poor rock quality. Over-bolted IMHO.

By David Evans
Mar 29, 2004

Hey 510bforme, top rope or followers ratings don't count.

By David Evans
Mar 30, 2004

Sorry 510bforme I didn't mean to come off so harsh. What I meant was that ratings are intended to give an on-site leader an idea how hard something is. Following or top roping is easier than leading (although a route with that much pro isn't much different for leader or follower). Also repeating a route makes it easier. I had just noticed that the picture showed you on a tr. Had you just led it on site and called it 5.8? If so your rating stands and I apoligize.

By Locker
Nov 15, 2004

I have led this route well over ten times and have yet to find it to be more than 5.8. Many factors are involved in ratings. Height,weight,experience etc... being but a few. The day I "Onsighted" this I felt it was 5.8. I have heard and read others feel it is harder. I see that Randy feels that DE's rating it harder appears to be respected. Interesting to me, I consider all of the climbers that rate it higher than I do better and more accomplished than myself in the climbing world. Maybe the climb fits my style, height,weight better? Whatever the case, give it a shot.