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San Ysidro (Lower)

Submitted By: EricT on Feb 5, 2006
Administrators: Mike Morley, andy patterson
Latitude: 34.4464  Longitude: -119.6230 
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With a good mix of routes and strong sandstone, San Ysidro is easily the best canyon climbing in Santa Barbara. There are a few dozen routes here ranging from hard slabs to vertical and sporty. The area is east facing and surrounded by dense foliage, so it is one of the slowest areas to dry out. Good all year round, barring recent rain. By SB standards, it gets busy, but that usually just means two or three groups on weekends.

There is a gully roughly in the middle of the wall which affords a 3rd class approach to the tops of the crags.


Getting There 

101 to Montecito, then San Ysidro exit. Right on East Valley Road to Park Lane, and then a left on Mountain Drive. After a short bit on Mountain Drive, park and take the trail leading through peoples' back yards to a fire road. Check out the GPS location for help. Head up the fire road for 5 minutes and then take a left right before the gate. Cross the stream and you'll be at the base.



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Santa Barbara local Pat Shourds takes a solo-stroll up Face Lift.

Face Lift 5.7 R  CA : Central Coast : Santa Barbara
This route begins at the obvious flake between Applied Magnetics and the descent gully. Climb the flake to a bolt (alternately, you can climb the 5.10a face left of the flake past a Leeper hanger). Easy friction leads to a second bolt. From this second bolt, the route continues straight up to a third bolt near the "Too Mucking Futch" trough. A traverse and a very long sling is required to gain the fourth bolt. I prefer to forego the third bo...[more]


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1) Vanishing Flakes/Rockoco: two 1/2" x 4" wedge-bolts with chains (2004);  2) Applied Magentics: two 14mm Petzl Bat'inox glue-ins and one 12mm Fixe Triplex expansion bolt (2005);  3) Great Race/Peels of Laughter: two 1/2" x 4" wedge-bolts with chains (2004);  4) Fine Line: two 12mm Fixe Glue-ins and one 1/2" Rawl-style five-piece expansion bolt (2004).

BETA PHOTO: 1) Vanishing Flakes/Rockoco: two 1/2" x 4" wedge-b...


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By Mike Morley
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From: Oakland, CA
Feb 11, 2006

Many of the routes at San Ysidro warrant a PG/R rating for seriousness. Unless you are toproping, anticipate significant runout sections on somewhat friable rock.

By Jon Hanlon
From: SLO
Feb 19, 2006

Thanks for the new set of anchors on Applied Magnetics...the old ones were looking pretty shabby.

I also noticed the horrible anchor chop-job at the top of Many Happy Returns. On another website, I read a post questioning why some of the retro-anchors were chopped, as they were essentially TR anchors.

San Ysidro has a proud history and has never been a considered a "Toproping" area, and I can understand how some could be offended by new TR anchors. I myself feel that not all of the new anchors are necessary. A directional nut can easily be placed at the top of Great Race to keep the follower out of the gully, and Vanishing Flakes could always be toproped with bomber cams. You could also TR Vanishing Flakes from Applied Magnetics with a directional in the crack. Not every climb needs to be "toprope ready."

On the other hand, San Ysidro's popularity requires some new thinking on the part of would-be choppers. People DO toprope, and the damage caused by hundreds of ropes can be greater that the damage by a couple of bolts. This can be seen by the deep rope grooves in the rock at the top of Orangahang (Maybe the anchors that got chopped were attempting to address this). I also worry about the oak tree that has suffered hundreds of rappels and ropes pulled around its trunk without the benefit of fixed slings/rap rings. If anywhere needs a retro-anchor, or rap station (or just some slings) it is here.

My point? Both sides of the issue need to be considered. Not every route should be reduced to a convenient toprope route, but at the same time we need to be able to bend our own rules to help preserve our crag.

Thanks again for your effort and expense in the replacement of the manky anchors.

By Matthew Fienup
Administrator
From: Ventura, CA
Feb 20, 2006

About the old Applied Magnetics fixed anchor:
Despite their age, the bolts themselves proved to be in decent condition. At the same time, the rock that they were in was absolutely scary. Beneath the patina, the rock was super soft and tended to remain damp for several weeks after a rain. Other than the patina itself, these bolts were essentially held in by mud.

I'm starting to learn that the greatest weakness of fixed gear in Santa Barbara is not the type of hardware or its age; rather, it's the rock itself. [Although, there is plenty of crappy gear too--including 5/16" x 3" expansion bolts all over San Ysidro.] Do not be fooled by the apparent hardness of this sandstone on its surface. Beneath the 1/4-1/8" thick patina is sandstone which is soft enough and coarse-grained enough to be scratched with a fingernail.

Climbers should be advised that there are only a very few types of fixed gear that prove solid during tests when placed in rock as soft as ours. Even a traditional climbing-specific Fixe wedge anchor has very little holding power in such conditions (they actually break the rock inside the hole). Glue-ins and Fixe Triplex expansion bolts are your only reliable bet. Every thing else (meaning most of the fixed gear in SB) should be treated with suspicion.

By Matthew Fienup
Administrator
From: Ventura, CA
Apr 3, 2006

During the week of March 20, there was a significant rock-fall event in the main descent gully at San Ysidro.

In this event, at least 30 cubic feet (3,000-lbs?) of rock fell from high in the descent gully, from opposite the start of "Scrub Job." It is obvious that a considerable amount of instability remains and that smaller rock falls are happening regularly. A refrigerator-sized chalk-stone at the top of the gully (8 feet below the large oak tree) appears to have been undercut and could release.

Fortunately, falling rock has thus far tended to stay in the gully and does not appear to immediately threaten climbers on any of the major routes--with the possible exception of climbers at the bottom of "Great Race." Be extremely cautious when using the descent gully.

By EricT
From: Santa Barbara, CA
Aug 9, 2006

The right bolt on top of Peels of Laughter has a nice wobble to it. I'm guessing people have been toproping Great Race off of it and the way the bolts are set up this puts a nice force on the right bolt.

Someone who has more experience bolting want to check it out?

By EricT
From: Santa Barbara, CA
Aug 10, 2006

Matt, even if they're using an equalized anchor, rotating the chainlink on the right bolt to Great Race puts some nice leverage on the bolt. I don't know if this was the problem or if its the expansion business, either way...

By Matthew Fienup
Administrator
From: Ventura, CA
Aug 15, 2006

On August 15, 2006, I pulled one of the anchor bolts atop Peels/Great Race straight out of its hole with only moderate pressure. The bolt was a 1/2" wedge bolt!! It has been replaced by a Petzl Bat'inox glue-in.

By Jon Hanlon
From: SLO
Aug 21, 2006

I think most people are aware of the inherent dangers of our sport, but I appreciate the reminder to evaluate fixed protection with a wary eye. I also appreciate efforts to replace unsafe bolts and anchors at our crags. The vigilance is admirable, but I am getting a little weary of the hysterical warnings about mortal danger and unsafe conditions on every climb. After 15 years of climbing on the Central Coast, it’s a wonder I am still alive! Please, leave a little adventure and discovery to the whole experience. Evaluating the conditions and making one’s own decisions are part of the process. As I have ranted before, not every climb needs to be “fixed” or needs to be toprope ready. If someone wants to replace bad anchors, great. If it is best to set a directional to eliminate a short pendulum, great. But let us figure something out on our own. Some of us enjoy that learning process.

I get tired of the sanitization of every crag so that is more palatable for mass-consumption. This trend is very erosive. For example, from “Face Lift” at San Ysidro: “The position of the bolt was moved approximately 4 feet to find harder rock in which to place the bolt and an easier stance from which to clip.” While you are at it, might as well add some more bolts or chip some holds to make it easier to climb.

All of these “safety improvements” (along with scads of photos, moving bolts, exaggerated warnings, etc.), appear to be an attempt to bolster a guide service. Now I understand why many of the classic lines at San Ysidro have begun sprouting retro-bolted toprope anchors.

Please consider how your actions may negatively impact climbers not included in the list of clientele.

By Matthew Fienup
Administrator
From: Ventura, CA
Aug 22, 2006

Excerpts from Anchors Away
by Duane Raleigh. Climbing Magazine, October 1992.

Anyone wishing to see the complete text, please contact me. Non-clientele will be required to pay a large fee ; )

By Bill Becher
Jul 6, 2008

Someone filched the bolt hanger and nut from one of the three bolts at the top of Orangahang.