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Bye Gully 

YDS: 5.5 French: 4b Ewbanks: 13 UIAA: IV+ ZA: 11 British: MS 4a

Type:  Trad, 2 pitches, 200'
Consensus:  YDS: 5.5 French: 4b Ewbanks: 13 UIAA: IV+ ZA: 11 British: MS 4a [details]
FA: unknown
Season: Spring - Fall
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Submitted By: C Miller on Jan 20, 2006

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Bye Gully is the large chimney system on the left margin of the Weeping Wall that's primarily used as a descent route. It can be climbed but be aware that on a busy weekend you may feel like a salmon trying to swim upstream with all of the people downcliming it.

The climb ends at Paisano Ledge, which is atop the right shoulder of the Sunshine Face. From here those wishing to go higher can climb one of several friction routes to the top of the rock or climb the nearby Paisano Pinnacle. To descend rap from bolts back down Bye gully and do a bit of downclimbing to reach your pack.


gear to 2.5"

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By Andy Laakmann
Site Landlord
From: Bend, OR
Jan 20, 2006

I had the pleasure once of descending this in a violent thunderstorm. It became a raging river... and I quickly understood why the Weeping Wall is so named. If someone hadn't moved our packs from the base, they would have been washed away to Hemet...
By Adam Stackhouse
May 10, 2007

As mentioned in the route description, this is really a descent route more than anything. Anyone looking to climb in and around this grade should head over to something like Graham Crackers.
By Chris Owen
From: Big Bear Lake
May 22, 2009

I think there was a big rockfall down this gully, in the 90's?

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