By Rob Rethans
Jul 23, 2012
| I had to leave an orange mastercam, gold DMM offest nut, and several biners on the line to get down to my friend who took a ground fall. Thought I'd see if anyone picked it up. I will gladly pay for shipping and some beer.
Thanks! | 
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By Derek Huff
Jul 23, 2012
| Can we start another booty argument thread?
What is with climbers these days expecting people to go return their gear for them. You could have just gone up after work the next day and got it back. Its fair game and your sense of entitlement is annoying, back in our day climbers wouldn't just expect to get it back. What else am I missing?
Oh hope your friend is okay. |
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By Jake Jones
From The Eastern Flatlands
Jul 23, 2012
| Derek Huff wrote: Can we start another booty argument thread? What is with climbers these days expecting people to go return their gear for them. You could have just gone up after work the next day and got it back. Its fair game and your sense of entitlement is annoying, back in our day climbers wouldn't just expect to get it back. What else am I missing? Oh hope your friend is okay.
Hey, prickface, there is no entitlement. He's not expecting anything with this statement:
"Thought I'd see if anyone picked it up."
Also, he offered a reward. Pretty standard- especially for gear that was left because of a rescue/injury.
Maybe there were circumstances in which he could not return. Maybe he didn't have a partner to belay him to help retrieve it after an accident. Maybe someone bootied it later that day before he could get back up there. Why are you being such a cantankerous shitbird in every thread you choose to comment on? "What is with climbers these days" like you're fifty or something. You sound like you're 15 with all your angst-ridden combative bullshit. |
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By Glenn Schuler
From Monument, Co.
Jul 23, 2012
| Jake Jones wrote: Why are you being such a cantankerous shitbird in every thread you choose to comment on?
Everyone wants to be the new Yarp. It's all the rage. |
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By J. Albers
From Colorado
Jul 23, 2012
| Jake Jones wrote: Hey, prickface, there is no entitlement. He's not expecting anything with this statement: "Thought I'd see if anyone picked it up." Also, he offered a reward. Pretty standard- especially for gear that was left because of a rescue/injury. Maybe there were circumstances in which he could not return. Maybe he didn't have a partner to belay him to help retrieve it after an accident. Maybe someone bootied it later that day before he could get back up there. Why are you being such a cantankerous shitbird in every thread you choose to comment on? "What is with climbers these days" like you're fifty or something. You sound like you're 15 with all your angst-ridden combative bullshit.
Well done Jake. I think your post about covers what needs to be said to Derek.
Rob, I hope you get your stuff back and I hope your friend recovers well. |
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By agd
Jul 23, 2012
| Good luck getting your stuff back and a fast recovery for your friend. |
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By Sam Lightner, Jr.
Jul 23, 2012
| Damn.... I thought this thread was gonna be about how you got laid as payment for rescuing someone. |
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By Scott McMahon
From Boulder, CO
Jul 23, 2012
| Derek Huff wrote: Can we start another booty argument thread? What is with climbers these days expecting people to go return their gear for them. You could have just gone up after work the next day and got it back. Its fair game and your sense of entitlement is annoying, back in our day climbers wouldn't just expect to get it back. What else am I missing? Oh hope your friend is okay.
Your missing the part about his friend being rescued. Wrong thread to make your statement.
I think a resuce is the one time everyone agrees upon for the return of bail gear.
And as J Hazard said..."Classy". |
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By Derek Huff
Jul 23, 2012
| Jake Jones wrote: Hey, prickface, there is no entitlement. He's not expecting anything with this statement: "Thought I'd see if anyone picked it up." Also, he offered a reward. Pretty standard- especially for gear that was left because of a rescue/injury. Maybe there were circumstances in which he could not return. Maybe he didn't have a partner to belay him to help retrieve it after an accident. Maybe someone bootied it later that day before he could get back up there. Why are you being such a cantankerous shitbird in every thread you choose to comment on? "What is with climbers these days" like you're fifty or something. You sound like you're 15 with all your angst-ridden combative bullshit.
Hahaha angst ridden bullshit??? And what was your post exactly Jake? You seem WAY more worked up about this than me. Calm down, take a deep breath and try not to be so sensitive lil guy. |
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By Derek Huff
Jul 23, 2012
| Let me provide a typical response like everyone else.
"Hope you get your stuff back bro, and hope your brah is okay" That about cover it? |
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By mozeman
Jul 23, 2012
| Derek Huff wrote: Hahaha angst ridden bullshit??? And what was your post exactly Jake? You seem WAY more worked up about this than me. Calm down, take a deep breath and try not to be so sensitive lil guy.
his post was answering the question you asked dipshit LOL |
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By Scott McMahon
From Boulder, CO
Jul 23, 2012
| Derek Huff wrote: Let me provide a typical response like everyone else. "Hope you get your stuff back bro, and hope your brah is okay" That about cover it?
That's "typically" the type of thing people say when someone is hurt in an accident.
Your sympathy is overwhelming. |
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By splitclimber
Jul 23, 2012
| Rob - I'd hope that whoever got on the line after you knew that was not booty, but retreat from a fall or to help a fallen climber. Best of luck gettting it back.
Also, I don't know why I'm getting sucked into the trolls of this Derek alias or whatever it is, but I think I can't take his shit anymore on this site. 2 weeks of nothing but troll posts. |
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By BirdDog
From Seattle, WA
Jul 23, 2012
| Derek Huff wrote: Can we start another booty argument thread? What is with climbers these days expecting people to go return their gear for them. You could have just gone up after work the next day and got it back. Its fair game and your sense of entitlement is annoying, back in our day climbers wouldn't just expect to get it back. What else am I missing? Oh hope your friend is okay.
I don't know what day you were in back when, but back in my day you would have pummeled to witin an inch of your life for such douchebag comment. What else are you missing - civility, brains, manners, social acceptability.....
OP - Hope you get your gear back and your friend recovers quickly. |
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By Eric Coffman
Jul 23, 2012
| Sorry about your friend hope he is ok. Sounds like you reacted quickly and intelligently--the only positive is you may be more prepared if it happens again higher up. Our lives really are on the line. |
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By CJC
Jul 23, 2012
| let me know if you don't get it back and i'll pull something off my rack for you |
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By Colonel Mustard
From Reno, NV
Jul 23, 2012
| splitclimber wrote: Also, I don't know why I'm getting sucked into the trolls of this Derek alias or whatever it is, but I think I can't take his shit anymore on this site. 2 weeks of nothing but troll posts.
Yes, mocking an accident is especially scummy. You gotta ignore the non-contributor pricks though, they'll just come crawling pathetically back when they get banned anyway.
Whoever recovered it should definitely give the gear back to these good samaritans. |
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By Austin Baird
From SLC, Utah
Jul 23, 2012
| Same here. I'll gladly throw a couple biners your way. |
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By Jake Jones
From The Eastern Flatlands
Jul 23, 2012
| Derek Huff wrote: Hahaha angst ridden bullshit???
Yes, fuckhead. Angst-ridden bullshit. See below.
"Its fair game and your sense of entitlement is annoying."
Derek Huff wrote: And what was your post exactly Jake?
A reaction to your incessant angst-ridden bullshit, of course.
I've been in almost the exact same situation. The route in question was a traversing crack. We rapped to get what we could off of it, then an airlift occurred, then the rangers closed the area off. I had to be to work the next day, you know, because people have responsibilities and shit, and it was a two hour approach on top of a three hour drive, and I don't live in Colorado where I can spit on my local crag from my front door. So I left two cams (one mine) and a nut in the route. Then this guy and his buddy pulled the gear, got my name from the local news story, and contacted me offering it to me. No sense of entitlement, no gear held for hostage pending a sharp scolding from some asshole labeling you "entitled". Just shipping cost and a little extra and a thank you. Like it should be. Thanks again, John.
Climbers aren't always rewarded with an empowering send for bold risk-taking. Sometimes it ends in injury. With shit-eating trolls around, I guess it could end in ridicule and derision too. There's another recent thread about a kid that died in a rappelling accident in NC. Perhaps you'd like to visit there and tell everyone what a n00b he was or something like that- you know, in the interest of tradition and public service that you seem so steeped in. |
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By Unassigned User
Jul 23, 2012
| CJC wrote: let me know if you don't get it back and i'll pull something off my rack for you
Third that! You don't get it back I will give you something off my rack. And I will wish bad karma on whoever took it (and Derek too). |
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By J. Albers
From Colorado
Jul 23, 2012
| CJC wrote: let me know if you don't get it back and i'll pull something off my rack for you
Huh. Well CJC, I apologize for razzing you the other day on one of the other "leaving gear" threads. Your post is downright generous. Cheers. |
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By Eric Coffman
Jul 23, 2012
| The replies in this thread actually make me feel as if I'm back hanging with bros and strangers in jtree. what a community. |
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By J. Albers
From Colorado
Jul 23, 2012
| Eric Coffman wrote: The replies in this thread actually make me feel as if I'm back hanging with bros and strangers in jtree. what a community.
Yeah kinda nice for once, huh?
Plus, when Jake started off his initial response with the word "prickface" I smiled heartily. Prickface; what a great word....its gotta be up there with "douchenozzle" as terms that are really fun to say. |
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By Ryan Curry
Jul 23, 2012
| Hey Rob, when did the accident occur? If it was Sunday, especially late Sunday, chances are that your gear is still there. It rained here all day today. I live 15 minutes from the Leap; I could jam down there tomorrow before work and grab your stuff. |
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