Black Velvet Wall, Trials and Tribulations
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We ran up DOWT yesterday morning. We climbed and rapped the route in 4 hours, from 8am to noon and saw a multitude of what I would deem "fails". I would like to offer very easy fixes to these spring break issues. |
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Listen here, you curmudgeon...I agree about the music. :) Don't force it on everyone else. There's a thread on MP now about "crag babies." It's really about being considerate of others when it comes to music, babies and dogs. |
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Look forward to it Frank. |
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Vegas cracks me up. Something in the water? |
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Adam Burch wrote:Vegas cracks me up. Something in the water?I think it's in the vodka, Adam. |
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FrankPS wrote: I think it's in the vodka, Adam.Heard. Didn't Alex downsolo DOWT? I think I heard that. alpinist.com/doc/web10s/new… |
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This is funny Dow. Heard/saw one of those parties you speak of too when they passed Ixtlan on their hike back to the lot, I assume. I agree about the music. I've never had the experience of someone blasting music in the canyons like that. I wonder about the best way to address it? If someone could mention it in a respectful way? Or would that even be too confrontational? The other day my partner and I had issues with another party's inconsideration and mentioned it half jokingly and when that didn't work, we mentioned it again more seriously....and the person got defensive either way. But I read that they did not have much experience climbing or any outdoor ethics. Maybe basic outdoor ethics are good to teach new climbers at a gym along with their belay lessons? |
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Xtine, it was my understanding that at least the two more experienced of this group work at the largest climbing gym in the Bay area....it was one of these gentlemen who was using an external speaker. Of course I realize the hazards of ear buds when climbing, but at least that would not insult my libertarian ethics. I have zero issue with how safe someone does or does not want to be...that is between he/she and their partner. Death or injury from ones own actions is not a big deal to me, drug overdose, foolishness on the wall, whatever. I don't believe the gyms have any motive to teach much ethics regarding outdoor climbing nor am I into promoting any set ethics myself. |
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Was that you on Ixtlan yesterday by the way? That is my favorite off-width in Red Rock...Joanne has a great story about the FA with Spider Man Dan. |
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Dow, |
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droppin' them names, all day e'er day! |
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David, Revis or not....you get me tickets to a home game, I am there this fall brother. |
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Dow, in a digitized land catering to passive aggression you've resorted to the most passive aggressive of the internet standbys... the post climb (a.k.a. What I WOULD have said!) critique?! |
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True. I would enjoy meeting some of you internet fuck ups in person and see how bold you are face to face. And you are right about my policy of telling it how it is in person. Unfortunately, the young lady at the bottom of POD/DOWT was the only one I had a chance to talk to directly....it took me a while to think about what she said about wanting her cams back as she left...I was sort of hoping she might find this post when she posted a lost and found for them. She did say she was too embarrassed to ask us to get them and I did advise her to stick around for the next folks. When she left me thinking she actually wanted them back after giving up on them so easy....I was a bit perplexed. |
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Colonel Mustard wrote:Dow, in a digitized land catering to passive aggression you've resorted to the most passive aggressive of the internet standbys... the post climb (a.k.a. What I WOULD have said!) critique?! Woe is you! You really need to get back to your roots, man, and live up to what I said about you a while ago: "His whole post history is like somebody gave his ballsack a bullhorn." You did manage to spray about your ruthlessly wired moderate, so I'll give your ballsack that much. Is that Dow's ballsack spraying? TURN IT UP!Effin' LOL! |
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Dow Williams wrote:True. I would enjoy meeting some of you internet fuck ups in person and see how bold you are face to face.See? That wasn't so hard to give the lil guy the mic and let the macho posturing roll, now was it? I really doubt I'd enjoy meeting the guy desperately trying to assert how much better he is than everybody else at the crag, I usually just ignore that guy. Yeah, people do annoying shit at Red Rock, nothing worth posting a post game bitch rant over. |
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Dow is a strong climber and a good guy. 'Nuff said. We're all someone different than you would imagine in person. |
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FrankPS wrote:We're all someone different than you would imagine in person. Carry on.Not me. I'm an ill-tempered pith helmet wearing imperialist. You gotta admit, Dow's internet voice is a little... strident. I'm sure he's all good and we'd enjoy sharing a rope, I'm just adding a little spice to his bean pie. I'm sure RR at spring break does require an outlet to express the horror... I have particular memories of being on DOWT myself and hearing some fucking New Englanders gobbling on with their mouth full of marbles accent at level 10 the entire way up Sour Mash and wishing they would shut the fuck up. No egregious climbing errors were made, so I failed to write it up for posterity until now.... Hey yiz Yankees! STFU! |
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Colonel Mustard wrote: Not me. I'm an ill-tempered pith helmet wearing imperialist. You gotta admit, Dow's internet voice is a little... strident. I'm sure he's all good and we'd enjoy sharing a rope, I'm just adding a little spice to his bean pie. I'm sure RR at spring break does require an outlet to express the horror... I have particular memories of being on DOWT myself and hearing some fucking New Englanders gobbling on with their mouth full of marbles accent at level 10 the entire way up Sour Mash and wishing they would shut the fuck up. No egregious climbing errors were made, so I failed to write it up for posterity until now.... Hey yiz Yankees! STFU!Hopefully they're reading this |
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Loving this thread! All the entertaining shit-talk but more mutual respect among the posters. |
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Ballsack Bullhorn..that deserves its own patent, or trademark, or short story or something. |