Better Red Than Dead 5.10b PG13
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| Type: | Trad, 1 pitch, 180 feet |
| Consensus: | 5.10b [details] |
| FA: | Bruce Holthouse |
| Submitted By: | George Perkins on Sep 23, 2007 |
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George Perkins on the sharp end on Better Red ...
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Some rocks in this area are on private property. Property owner requests signed waiver. MORE INFO >>>
The remainder are on US Forest Service land. A map detailing the public areas can be obtained from the ranger station en route to the rocks from the village of Tres Piedras. According to Jan Studebaker: "The property line runs from approximately the current east corner by the access gate in a straight line over the top of South Rock to the top middle of the Chicken Heads/Mosaic Wall mount, and from there west down the mount slope to the meadow just south of the Alley climbs. Some of the most popular routes are completely on private property. There are survey markers on the top of South rock (the mysterious aluminum stake stuck in the rock) and on top of the Mosaic rock (most of the time buried in water in a pot hole.)" A new online Tres Piedras Route Guide from LA Mountaineers has been updated with the latest access information, and should be read by all Tres Piedras climbers. Group climb leaders, and Climbing Directors (future or past) should take particular note. From the guide: Access Notes: Tres Piedras climbers should sign the waiver found on this page because the popular South Rock is mostly on private land, as is some of the access to the area. The landowner, requests a waiver, NO fires, no chalk and "please close any gates". In order to nurture greater landowner acceptance of climbers, participants of group climbs are requested to organize quick clean up activities before leaving the area; this should include the climbing area as well as the access roads (trip leaders could supply plastic grocery bags). Small parties should practice "leave no trace" principles. On August 19, 2009 the landowner stated: "Yes I still own the property, and yes I'd still like to have waivers on hand - even or perhaps especially from your organization. Only once in awhile do I have problems with climbers, mostly not picking up after themselves. My biggest gripe is that despite repeated requests, the climbers don't remove protection (edit: colored webbing, shiny hardware) from the climbing routes, which is both lazy and unattractive. Your organization could do me a big favor by doing a group climb and removing the crap that others have left on the various routes so that it is both a pristine part of the landscape, and so that each climber must figure out his own route without relying on the handiwork of others."
This information is a public crowdsourcing effort between the Access Fund,
and Mountain Project. You should confirm closures, restrictions, and/or related dates.
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Keeping climbing areas open and conserving the climbing environment
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Description Quintessential TP climbing with the crux moves above your gear make "Better Red Than Dead" a bit intimidating. My first time I was a bit spooked, a couple more recent times, it didn't seem as bad. One of the more rewarding 5.10s here. Face climb up to right-angling crack. Step onto the slab above to clip the 1st bolt, slab up and right to the 2nd bolt. From here, sneak up 5.10 slab/face straight up to a seam (no pro there), then a thank-god left-angling finger crack. You probably don't want to fall in that section. After you reach the finger crack and get some gear in, pull an interesting bulge and rest at a good ledge. From here, there are a few options: (1) Find the bolt up and a little to the right. Go to that, traverse right (5.10 airy), and ramble up to reach the 2-bolt anchor above Serpentine Crack. You can rappel from here with a 60m rope (100' rappel). (2) Go generally straight up staying with the rightmost giant chickenheads and knobs (5.9, shown this way in Taos Rock guide) and continue up through progressively easier ground to set a belay and walk off. (3) You could probably escape left to the big chicken heads and easier climbing.
Location This is the 2nd bolted climb to the left of Serpentine Crack. Rappel from the Serpentine Crack 2-bolt anchor (100' rappel, watch the ends with a 60m rope); or, if you top out, walk off to the east.
Protection Light rack of nuts, cams, RPs, and long runners. 2 bolts on route (and 1 bolt up high maybe on route).
| Comments on Better Red Than Dead |
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By Randy Nov 14, 2007 rating: 5.10a
| A fun route with good rock. 2 or 3 stars of 4, certainly not better than that. The bolt referenced as a variation in the description is actually the 4th bolt on Serpent Face, the 5.10c route to the right. |
By Luke Hanley From: Boulder, CO Nov 25, 2008
| I think this is one of Bruce Holthouse's masterpieces. |
By Stuart Turner Jan 26, 2009
| I climbed both Serpentine Face and Better Red Than Dead with my wife a few years ago. Better Red has a more heads up feel (my wife backed off at the second bolt)and Serpent was harder climbing. Classic pair! I though that these two route are quite possibly the best price for the grade at TP. Probably needs an up-grade on the fixed pro. A must do for the area. |
By Mike Howard Administrator Nov 11, 2009
| The 2 (or 3 if finishing on Serpentine Face Anchor) bolts were upgraded to SS FIXE 3/8 x 2 3/4 on 11/10/09. |
By Daniel Trugman From: Los Alamos, NM / Stanford, CA Jul 29, 2010 rating: 5.10b
| Thanks for the upgrade, Mike! This is a really nice line, one of my favorites at TP. At least with the new bolts in place, the route protects surprisingly well. All the harder moves have good pro nearby. The route is slightly run out on 5.8/5.9-, but then again, so are all the other 5.10s on Mosaic. The traverse right to the third bolt and to the Serpent Face anchors seemed a little contrived, so I skipped it and headed straight up on 5.8/5.9 chickenheads. I'd be willing to give the traverse a try next time though. It appears to be well-protected (at least for the leader). |
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