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By DavidCollins
From Grand Junction, CO
Jun 14, 2011

Tim Davis wrote:
+1 for Camp Slime!


I never made it to Camp Slime but have spent time in the MUA (Slime looked better) and that wretched Yogi Bear's Jellystone Park in Gardiner (not my idea). Although it was orderly and clean the combination of crowding, expense and other factors rendered it the worst camping experience I had while climbing.


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By wankel7
From Dallas TexASS
Jun 18, 2011

Horseshoe Canyon Ranch - AR


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By camhead
From The Old Northwest
Jun 18, 2011
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DavidCollins wrote:
I'd vote for removing Miguel's and both the NRG sites. I've camped at all of these as well as City of Rocks, J Tree and Leavenworth. The last three are in a league above anything at the NRG or Miguels. The campsites at the City, Leavenworth and J Tree are in spectacular places and I've enjoyed big chunks of daytime, just exploring the vicinity of the campsite or looking at the scenery, in them without actually climbing. While the spots at the NRG or Miguels are good places to flop for the night there is no way I could imagine enjoying, say, looking at the scenery from them or spending much time during the day at any of these. Icicle Creek in Leavenworth squeaks in at the top of my list, mostly because of that nice rushing creek nearby. Put that creek in the City and that would be hard to beat!


definitely agree. I'm well past staying at either Roger's or Miguel's, and there are certainly better campsites at the RR/NRGs. Even the better campgrounds like Lago Linda or Chestnut Grove, however, are simply "nice." They are better experiences, but they certainly do not blow you away with scenery every morning that you wake up; no comparison to the Creek, City, etc.

In my opinion, there is only ONE insanely nice and beautiful spot to camp at the New. And there is no way in hell that I'm telling where it is.


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By Brian Abram
From Columbia, SC
Jun 18, 2011
Brian Abram, leading pitch 2 of Dinkus Dog on the South Side of Looking Glass.  Kyle Sox is belaying.

What about a vote for North Carolina national forest camping in general? No permits, no crowds, no fees, no hassles about anything. Looking Glass: free, streamside camping; Shortoff/Table Rock: Beautiful scenery, free, no hassles ever; Big Green/Laurel Knob: Panthertown Valley is one of the more beautiful meadow-like environments around. I go all over the country, and camping seems to always be a hassle or cost money or both. It's one of the few perks of living down here, I guess. I'm not saying they are world class destinations, but they are just so easy and nice that I take easy camping for granted until I go somewhere else.


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By W.S.
From Montana
Jun 18, 2011

The camping in Ten Sleep, Wyo sucks ;)

Seriously, who would want extablished sites for free on public land within minutes of some of the best pocket pulling around?


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By Jason Holliday
From Blacksburg, VA
Jun 18, 2011
Me

Applebee dome in the Bugaboos! Nothing beats taking a poo with a view of Bugaboo and Snowpatch spires.


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By Andrew Shoemaker
From Garden Valley, ID
Jun 19, 2011
Me on Mt. Evans

Tony B wrote:
Whoops! OK, well then, we agree. I wonder if its larger absence here is related to an idea that Canada is not 'American' or if people just don't think it's great, or perhaps just so few users have been there. I think being down in those big cedars is very cool, myself.


I'm partial to the northwest anyways so that probably contributes to Squamish being one of my favorite places. I don't know too many people who have ever been there before though except those who live or have lived in the pnw


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By Br'er Rabbit
From The Deeper South
Jun 20, 2011
'Bred en bawn in a brier-patch, Brer Fox--bred en bawn in a brier-patch!'

Brian Abram wrote:
What about a vote for North Carolina national forest camping in general? No permits, no crowds, no fees, no hassles about anything. Looking Glass: free, streamside camping; Shortoff/Table Rock: Beautiful scenery, free, no hassles ever; Big Green/Laurel Knob: Panthertown Valley is one of the more beautiful meadow-like environments around. I go all over the country, and camping seems to always be a hassle or cost money or both. It's one of the few perks of living down here, I guess. I'm not saying they are world class destinations, but they are just so easy and nice that I take easy camping for granted until I go somewhere else.


What Brian said.


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By Wombat
From Boulder, co
Jul 19, 2011
Cutout from a larger map illustrating accessibility of world cities.

Here is an initial map of these locations you all contributed. Looks like the western states are dominating for having the best camp spots. The points are not for the exact campgrounds but if anyone wants to move a point let me know and I will give you access to edit the table behind this map.

www.google.com/fusiontables/DataSource?snapid=S2264630is7

Any more spots?


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By Woodchuck ATC
Jul 19, 2011
bouldering at RRG

Looks like Colorado rules for the most good sites. Meanwhile, how did this turn into a 'hate-Miguels' posting? Everyone needs to cut loose after a stresful day of climbing and you can't beat the odd events and strange opportunities for fun at Miguels each evening.


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By Wombat
From Boulder, co
Jul 19, 2011
Cutout from a larger map illustrating accessibility of world cities.

Yes. Looks like Colorado is currently holding the record (see link for a graph).

www.google.com/fusiontables/DataSource?snapid=S226597GAbD

But... I think the story would change a bit with more input. After all, Colorado also probably has the most Mountain Project users which likely skews the data a bit.

More spots?


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By bergbryce
From South Lake Tahoe, CA
Jul 19, 2011

They're secret


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By Peter Franzen
Administrator
From Phoenix, AZ
Jul 19, 2011
Belay

3 pages and nobody has mentioned Ibex?


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By LeeAB
Administrator
From ABQ, NM
Jul 19, 2011
Once we landed we headed to Font to find a place to stay for the night before doing a day of wine tasting and heading to Buoux.

Dustin B wrote:
+1 for tres piedras NM. Easy access, great camping a stones throw away from world class climbing.


??? world class climbing???


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By LeeAB
Administrator
From ABQ, NM
Jul 19, 2011
Once we landed we headed to Font to find a place to stay for the night before doing a day of wine tasting and heading to Buoux.

bruno-cx wrote:
"Or New Mexico, bouldering for weeks." Did someone say Roy?


Has some pretty nice camping.
El Rito, NM too as someone else mentioned.


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By Frank K
From Bishop, CA
Jul 19, 2011

Bishop has amazing camping

north rim black canyon

The national forest around paradise forks outside of flagstaff.


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By KillianW
Jul 19, 2011

There's also free first-come first-serve camping next to Summersville Dam at the New. It's above the Gauley, just above Summersville lake. 20 min from endless wall and Fayetteville, but really close to Orange Oswald and the Meadow. It's hardly a secret, though-- you might have to deal with someone's family reunion next door.

I'd keep Roger's and on the list not because of the spectacular scenery (it's a field in a backyard, what do you want?) but because of the people. It really is kinda the local hangout, and it's a great place to get beta and hook up with partners/new friends.

+1 for the AAC climber's ranch in the Tetons. Pricier, and not really "camping", but again it's where the climbers gather. And it does have damn good scenery. There are backcountry sites close to classic routes that blow the views there out of the water, but it seems like people are talking car-camping here.

I also have to add Sylvan Lake in the Black Hills needles.


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By Andy Hansen
From Longmont, Colorado
Jul 19, 2011
Scarlet Begonias, 5.11a, Zion NP. Photo by the illustrious swillbilly himself Matt Kuehl.

Nick Mardirosian wrote:
I agree, I won't stay at Miguel's anymore. I stayed at Lago Linda's a couple weeks ago and it was much better! LL's is $3 more but has free showers, private sites, and no groups of idiots yelling until 4am.


I don't appreciate being called an idiot. But really you're right. The best thing Miguel's has going for them is the food and the rad people you meet there. I slept in a car to avoid any yelling idiots on the nights I wanted to get some sleep and not swill into the wee hours of the morning.


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By Wombat
From Boulder, co
Jul 20, 2011
Cutout from a larger map illustrating accessibility of world cities.

K. I updated the data. I added the camping at the Buttermilks (Bishop) as I feel like the Pit is kind of just a gravel yard with fun people. If anyone wants to disagree feel free. I wasn't quit sure of the location of the camping at the Summersville Dam.

The Map:
www.google.com/fusiontables/DataSource?snapid=S226778fMko

The Graph:
www.google.com/fusiontables/DataSource?snapid=S226779SZzY


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By bradyk
Jul 20, 2011

Rocks Ranch in Hueco Tanks, TX would be a Miguels, only in the South and no pizza. Horseshoe Canyon Ranch in Arkansas definately needs to be on there. You camp in the Ozark Mountains right under 100's of Boulder/Sport/Trad Sandtone routes.


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By Wombat
From Boulder, co
Jul 20, 2011
Cutout from a larger map illustrating accessibility of world cities.

Thanks Bradyk. I am going to need to work through this data a bit so we can more accurately map the camp ground locations rather than the area or crag (which I have been doing most of the time).

If anyone out there has the motivation,
please find the camping area in google maps, right click on that location, select the "Whats here?" option, and copy and paste the coordinates that register in the search bar to this thread. I can use those to map the exact locations. Why you might ask? Because we can and its useful for us to plan road trips. I want to share the results of this with everybody for the longer-term.

NOTE: I added an attribute "Location Precision" that has notes for the locations I need your input to map. If you click on a point on the map you will see this attribute information.

Here is the general level of accuracy we currently have.
www.google.com/fusiontables/DataSource?snapid=S226839T_XH

Thanks all.


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