By Tim Davis From Atlanta Sep 16, 2010
| Will Butler wrote: This is actually starting to be a really interesting discussion. I would argue that none of those areas are "world-class". Despite common misconceptions, Colorado actually has no "world-class" climbing. What we have is a ton of B+ rock climbing that combined with the access to good jobs and other outdoor activities makes for one hell of a place to live. Yosimite, Céüse, Majorca, Indian Creek, Bishop, Hueco, Railay, Chamonix, The Red, ect. are "world-class." Eldo, Lumpy, RMNP, SPlatte, Unaweep, Rifle, The Black are all great, but I think deserve a place on the next tier down. I hope I didn't have a hand in starting this "world class" debate/controversy. I apologize if I did. I think to ease the tension I will put something out there we can all agree on: Sandrock is world class. No one can argue with that. |  FLAG |
By Milt H. Sep 16, 2010
| Anywhere but Utah, Thank you |  FLAG |
By Jean Scott Sep 16, 2010
| Western State College, Gunnison Colorado. It's shaggy,scruffy "mountain man" territory. Are you able to take a "real winter?" Because if you can't, don't go there. All the successful, world traveling climbing and/or extreme sport type alumni would take me all day to list. Above all, the tuition is a fraction of the cost you'd spend at a large university, and yet the education to be had there is top notch. |  FLAG |
By willeslinger From Golden, Colorado Sep 17, 2010
| Will S: "shithole decaying rustbelt kinda town". I can't let this dig against Chattanooga rest. It's incredibly ignorant and has really pissed me off. Don't insult a Southerner's home town. I think it's appropriate to quote some Skynyrd here. "Well I heard Mr. Young sing about us. Well I heard ole' Neal put us down. Well I hope Neal Young will remember... that A SOUTHERN MAN DON'T NEED HIM AROUND ANYHOW." I say the same thing to you Will S. Don't like us? Fine, don't come climb here. Item 1: Chattanooga as climbing town Rock and Ice rates Chattanooga as the best climbing town Item 2: Industry in Chattanooga: -Volkswagen Chattanooga (Revolutionized Chattanooga's economy, our housing market is ROBUST to say the least. Just TRY to find a construction job in Boulder or Moab.) -Alstom Chattanooga (world leader in Green energy technology) -UNUM Provident Corp Fortune 500 -Blue Cross/Blue Shield of Tennessee -Brach & Brock Confections -Chattem Inc -Dixie Yarns -The Krystal Company -McKee Banking Company -North American Royalties -Olan Mills, Inc. Item 3: Infrastructure in Chattanooga Fastest internet in ENTIRE COUNTRY Now if you will excuse me, I'll be enjoying some "World Class" climbing at T-Wall. |  FLAG |
By John Peterson Sep 17, 2010
| Jean Scott wrote: Western State College, Gunnison Colorado. ... Above all, the tuition is a fraction of the cost you'd spend at a large university, and yet the education to be had there is top notch. Damn straight. And the faculty are climbers too. What other college runs trips to places like IC, Colorado National Monument, Unaweep, and even Red Rocks for next to nothing? |  FLAG |
By willeslinger From Golden, Colorado Sep 20, 2010
| Jean Scott wrote: Western State College, Gunnison Colorado. It's shaggy,scruffy "mountain man" territory. Are you able to take a "real winter?" Because if you can't, don't go there. Well hell yeah, what's tuition like? |  FLAG |
By YDPL8S From Santa Monica, Ca. Sep 20, 2010
| I'd say that the only drawback to WSC is that you'll love the lifestyle there so much that you'll basically do anything to stay after you've graduated. Like shoveling snow in the winter in Crested Butte, and cutting firewood in the summer, not me but I know several people that this scenario applies to. "There is a leisure class at both ends of the economic spectrum" |  FLAG |
By willeslinger From Golden, Colorado Sep 20, 2010
| YDPL8S wrote: "There is a leisure class at both ends of the economic spectrum" I suffer through classes at UTC so I can live that quote. |  FLAG |
By Fea Sep 22, 2010
| Poor kid is probably so much more confused than he was at the beginning. Seriously though go to CSU for all the reasons mentioned above and so many more! |  FLAG |
By Scott McMahon From Boulder, CO Sep 22, 2010
| YDPL8S wrote: I'd say that the only drawback to WSC is that you'll love the lifestyle there so much that you'll basically do anything to stay after you've graduated. Like shoveling snow in the winter in Crested Butte, and cutting firewood in the summer, not me but I know several people that this scenario applies to. "There is a leisure class at both ends of the economic spectrum" My buddy moved to Crusty Butte to climb & ski etc...While visiting I asked him how many days of ice he got in and he answered none. He was working 3 jobs, living in a 2 bedroom w/ 3 roommates just to get by. Tough economy out there. |  FLAG |
By John Peterson Sep 22, 2010
| willeslinger wrote: Well hell yeah, what's tuition like?
Resident Non-Resident Tuition $ 3,423* $12,889 Fees (required) $ 1,354 $ 1,354 Books & Supplies $ 1,500 $ 1,500 Room $ 4,884 $ 4,884 Board $ 3,742 $ 3,742 Transportation & Personal $ 2,560 $ 3,250 Total Yearly $17,463 $27,619
This is from the website. The books and supplies seems really high. Dirtbag climbers could easily cut the last three down a lot. The non-resident tuition here is competitive with in-state in many eastern states. Oh, and for you alumni out there: Now with EDIBLE FOOD! |  FLAG |
By YDPL8S From Santa Monica, Ca. Sep 23, 2010
| What? no more Keating mystery meat green steamed patties. How will those freshman survive? |  FLAG |
By Will S From Joshua Tree Sep 23, 2010
| John Peterson wrote: The books and supplies seems really high. Hmm. I guess it doesn't seem that high to me (outrageous to be sure, but not much different from what I experienced). I finished my bachelors a dozen or so years ago, and my books back then routinely ran $80-$150 per. These were engineering texts, so kinda beefy, but the racket they run has professors putting out "updated editions" with minimal changes (sometimes they only change the problem sets!..stick a new cd in the back and call it a "new updated 3d edition) to assure that the used book market doesn't cut into Prof Bookwriter's profits. Biggest racket around, especially since their buddies in academia will aid the racket by requiring the most updated text. |  FLAG |
By John Barkhausen Sep 23, 2010
| I go to Prescott College, in Arizona, and there are eight or so areas within an hour, multiple classes that take you out climbing, and everyone seems to climb and want to go out all the time. I would look into it if you want climbing to be a part of your major. |  FLAG |
By Scott McMahon From Boulder, CO Sep 23, 2010
| Grant Gerhard wrote: also CSU has prettier women I was with some of the things you said until this... |  FLAG |
By Fat Dad From Los Angeles, CA Sep 23, 2010
| Resident Non-Resident Tuition $ 3,423* $12,889 Fees (required) $ 1,354 $ 1,354 Books & Supplies $ 1,500 $ 1,500 Room $ 4,884 $ 4,884 Board $ 3,742 $ 3,742 Transportation & Personal $ 2,560 $ 3,250 Total Yearly $17,463 $27,619 quote> That out of state tuition is going to be really fun to pay by chopping wood. I think there's definitely got to be a scale of cost in relation to educational benefit as well. Got to think some podunk school in western CO wouldn't fare too well on such a scale. |  FLAG |
By S. F. Pitman From Boulder, CO Apr 2, 2011
| The University of the South in Sewanee, TN. I am willing to bet that there are no other campuses that have multiple 5.13's (and 13,000 acres). I could be wrong, but I doubt it.
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By Mike Yuhnke From Potsdam,NY Apr 2, 2011
| Rob Alexander wrote: I used to go to SUNY Plattsburgh, only an hour from chapel pond/ Adirondacks I just got accepted to Plattsburg's Expeditionary Studies program and I'll be going there this fall. I'm curious if that's the program you were in, or if you have any experience with them. I'm trying to learn as much I can from alumni and what they did after they graduated before I completely commit |  FLAG |
By GR Johnson Apr 2, 2011
| Here are my top 3: #1 Quest College Squamish BC! This is the champ! Best back country skiing, rock climbing, mtn. biking. Close proximity to the canadian rockies, north cascades and Rodgers Pass. #2 MSU Bozeman Great rock climbing, great ice climbing, great skiing, and lots of partners. It is also a very good college and cost of living is pretty cheap in ol montucky. #3 I'll give it to Durango Silverton, Ouray, Indian Creek, the Black, good skiing. |  FLAG |
By Bobby Treadwell From Prescott, AZ Apr 2, 2011
| Prescott College AZ, especially if you want to major in Adventure Ed. |  FLAG |
By Tom Fralich From Fresno, CA Apr 2, 2011
| I think you need to weigh proximity with name recognition and reputation. Sure, there are tons of small colleges close to really good climbing. But a degree from those places isn't going to carry much weight if you leave the immediate community. I'm not saying that the education isn't good, but people will stare blankly at your answer to "where'd you go to school?" unless you add a clarifier on to the end every time. They may also be more likely to hire someone who went to a college that they've at least heard of before. Surely places like UC Boulder, CSU, U of Utah are good bets. People doing the hiring in other states aren't going to scratch their head wondering where they are. Dartmouth is probably the highest rated college that is close to lots of good climbing. Admittedly, the climbing is better in CO/UT, but a slip of paper from Dartmouth is worth more than a lot of people might realize. |  FLAG |
By Kevin Brooks Henry From Iowa City, IA Apr 2, 2011
| If it's any help now, I'm thinking of majoring in immunology |  FLAG |
By cragsavvy From Salt Lake City Apr 2, 2011
| University of Utah! I'm also 4 years away from college but I love living in Salt Lake. Such a great climbing community and every type of climbing imaginable, plus a lifetime worth of projects |  FLAG |
By Ice4life From SLC, UT Apr 3, 2011
| North Country Community College! I live 5 minutes from one of the best places to boulder in the ADK park, 5 minutes and a 10 minute walk to some local cracks, 20 minutes from Pitchoff, and 40 minutes from anything in chapel pond, beer walls, etc.. About 30 minutes to Willinghton. Theres so much rock and ice up here it's overwhelming. |  FLAG |
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