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By caughtinside
From Point Richmond, CA
Jan 29, 2008

Tim Stich wrote:
If only I could find the mentoring tips of drkodos. Man, was that a funny rant. It's been long since deleted from whence it was once posted.


"n00bs: Do not question the leader!!"

That was a classic.

By Tim Stich
From Colorado Springs, Colorado
Jan 29, 2008
Looking down from Notchtop

"It is not your place to question the leader. You are the follower. YOU WILL DO AS YOU ARE TOLD! You have no position from which to question the leader. By definition you are clueless. so STFU!"


..or something to that effect.

By Peter Spindloe
Administrator
From North Vancouver, BC
Jan 29, 2008
Starting the fourth class downclimb.  Photo by Ted. August 2007.

John J. Glime wrote:
Ken and Tony should tie into the same rope and let the rest of us watch as a charity event. I would pay money to watch you two climb together. Man would that be a show! You guys should consider it. Seriously.


I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that I would bet that they would get along just fine and have a good time, and that's even with their "history." If they had no "history" I would put money on them being able to go out and have a good day of climbing together.

Why?

1. Rather than use their rhetorical skills against each other, they would find a topic that they would have fun tearing apart together.

2. Almost everyone is nicer in the real world than on the internet.

3. I don't know Ken, although I'm sure he's a good guy. I do know Tony, and he's definitely a good guy.

I heard a joke about engineers, but it applies to climbers too, especially the kind that uses the internet: Mud-wrestling with a pig is a bit like arguing with an engineer, eventually you realize that the pig is enjoying it.

Now...where did I put that asbestos underwear...?

By Tony Bubb
From Boulder, CO
Jan 29, 2008
A 2006 photo of me at the top of "Lizards and Scorpions with Blue Sky and Clouds on Tuesday" or some other crazy route name. Nice view from the rim though. Image by Joseffa Meir.

Peter Spindloe wrote:
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that I would bet that they would get along just fine and have a good time, and that's even with their "history."


Peter,
You are a good pal and know me well, and so you already know what I think of some sorts of people. I'd rather eat my own vomit than tie in with this one. I turned down the offer to be in his film because I don't trust him, and I'm sure not roping up with someone if I don't think it is safe, and it would not feel safe to me.

As far as enjoying it... No, I didn't. Several people didn't. Ken did I suppose, or at least he professes to have antagonized me for fun. I feel like an idiot now, having wasted time analyzing it all within the context of rational adult behavior. I should have known immediately that it was not the sort of behaviour I was seeing. It's like a trainer said one time when I was trying to work with a tripped-out acid-head "hey, quit trying to analyze that with respect to rational behavior. He's on acid and that line of thinking is going nowhere."

I would however, as Glime suggested, be happy to participate in a
"MP.com Survivor" (vote-one-off-the-island) game, with the looser issuing a public apology and admission of guilt, and agreeing not to post on the forum again until paying $1000 to the Access Fund. If people like the idea, I'll try to draft up rules and go head to head with Ken for round 1, if he agrees.

By Andy Laakmann
Site Landlord
From Jackson Hole, WY
Jan 29, 2008
Racked and loaded... name that splitter behind me? Hint, its on Supercrack Buttress

Tony Bubb wrote:
I would however, as Glime suggested, be happy to participate in a "MP.com Survivor" (vote-one-off-the-island) game, with the looser issuing a public apology and admission of guilt, and agreeing not to post on the forum again until paying $1000 to the Access Fund. If people like the idea, I'll try to draft up rules and go head to head with Ken for round 1, if he agrees.


Mountain Project Reality TV! Right on!!

By Mike Morley
Administrator
From Oakland, CA
Jan 29, 2008
At Potrero Chico, New Years 2007/08

Tony Bubb wrote:
I would however, as Glime suggested, be happy to participate in a "MP.com Survivor" (vote-one-off-the-island) game, with the looser issuing a public apology and admission of guilt, and agreeing not to post on the forum again until paying $1000 to the Access Fund. If people like the idea, I'll try to draft up rules and go head to head with Ken for round 1, if he agrees.


I'm saving my money for the "Kirra vs. Susan" no holds barred jell-o wrestling pay-per-view (sorry Russ, you can't be referee).

By Allen Hill
From Glenelk, Colorado
Jan 29, 2008
Grimsel Valley, CH

Tony actually leaves Boulder?

By Peter Spindloe
Administrator
From North Vancouver, BC
Jan 29, 2008
Starting the fourth class downclimb.  Photo by Ted. August 2007.

Well, as I said I was going out on a limb there, and it turns out I was wrong.

Andy, is Fox next on list of partners after Climbing and Alpinist?

By shackboy
Jan 29, 2008

hey heather and sarah and anyone else looking to attract a mentor: post some pix on your profile.

since nothing good is on tv tonight, this tony-ken thing rules. but forget that climbing together crap, they need to fight.

maybe they can fight for charity? really. people would pay -- shit, ain't nuthin' 'mericans love more than violence. (well, maybe one thing.) but, damn, then they'll argue ad nauseum (will someone please correct my spelling with that word? I never can get that one right -- thanks) here afterward about some rule technicality.

then again, maybe they should just meet up at a truckstop men's room and get it all out rather than, ahem, spraying all over the forum.

p.s. just kidding, ladies. but seriously, how 'bout some photos?

By Tony Bubb
From Boulder, CO
Jan 29, 2008
A 2006 photo of me at the top of "Lizards and Scorpions with Blue Sky and Clouds on Tuesday" or some other crazy route name. Nice view from the rim though. Image by Joseffa Meir.

shackboy wrote:
but forget that climbing together crap, they need to fight. maybe they can fight for charity? really. people would pay -- shit, ain't nuthin' 'mericans love more than violence. (well, maybe one thing.)


I have a broken wrist (Triquetral fracture and an avulsion on a ligament) and a dislocated ankle I got that in an international Ultimate tournament in Mexico the week before last. So the doctor isn't letting me get rough again for a few months.

One thing Americans like better than violence? Let me guess???
Maybe we can just see who has a bigger wiener?

By Hank Caylor
From Eldorado Springs, CO
Jan 29, 2008
BASE

Tony Bubb wrote:
Maybe we can just see who has a bigger wiener?


I'm in and I'll crush you both!

By Kateri Ahrendt
From Longmont, CO
Jan 29, 2008
Notchtop.  Photo by John Francis.

Andy Laakmann wrote:
Mountain Project Reality TV! Right on!!


This show is getting a lot of lurkers - ahem - I mean, viewers! The MP.com sponsers must be loving it.

By Avery Nelson
From Boulder, CO
Jan 29, 2008
Avery, 300' up Japanese Coulior

Wow -- now, this is a page full of potential headlines ---

Ken and Tony tie the knot and climb... Kirra and Susan Jello wrestle to our hearts content... An 'open for the masses' Wiener contest... access fund donations... the dude who has no pictures of himself posted asks women to post their pics... and Andy brings Reality TV to MP (does that mean we're getting video finally?). Wow! What's not to love about MP?

By Zed
From Gotham City
Jan 29, 2008

Tony Bubb wrote:
Peter, You area good pal and know me well, and so you already know what I think of some sorts of people. I'd rather eat my own vomit than tie in with this one. I turned down the offer to be in his film because I don't trust him, and I'm sure not roping up with someone if I didn't hink it was safe, and it would not feel safe to me. As far as enjoying it, no, I didn't. Several people didn't. Ken did, I suppose, or at least professes to have antagonized me for fun. I feel like an idiot now, having wasted time analyzing it within the contexy of rational adult behavior. I should have seen immediately that it was not the sort of behaviour I was seeing. It's like a trainer said onetime when I was trying to work with an tripped-out acid-head "hey, quit trying to analyze that with respect to rational behavior. He's on acid and that line of thinkinh is going nowhere. I would however, as Glime suggested, be happy to participate in a "MP.com Survivor" (vote-one-off-the-island) game, with the looser issuing a public apology and admission of guilt, and agreeing not to post on the forum again until paying $1000 to the Access Fund. If people like the idea, I'll try to draft up rules and go head to head with Ken for round 1, if he agrees.


Learn to laugh at yourself a little.

By Gigette Miller
From Vegas
Jan 29, 2008
Enjoying the little things in life.<br /><br />I would have never thought it would be so exciting to see our sunflowers sprouting up. It seems like just yesterday we planted the seeds.<br /><br />(Taken June 30th 2008)<br /><br />

And the MP girls can photochop the wieners....

By Zed
From Gotham City
Jan 29, 2008

Jon Ruland wrote:
you must have this speech saved somewhere for easy copy and paste action.


I do now.

By chrisp
From boulder
Jan 29, 2008
me after climbing half way up Caterpillar on the Cat wall and climbing back down because I am a sissy.

OK- so it looks like there is going to be a cock fight between Tony, Hank, and Ken.


This is pretty cool. There are pictures of Tony's shlong in some avante guard book so you two guys better get the penis pumps going. I havent seen Hanks but he must have big balls to be base jumping.

We have gone from trying to avoid the dipshits, guys that troll for dates, on this site as " climbing mentors" to dick measurements.

This again is cool because I am pretty bored as well- the weather forecast this weekend is looking crappy and means I have to find some creative ways to convince my climbing partner to go on a 6 hour drive to IC so I can aid my way up IHC. So I am taking a break from that.

Since this post has taken a diversion from the original topic I just wanted to say that I sent the green and orange slab route at BRC tonight- didnt even use chalk- I have heard that using tape, chalk - possibly shoes is aid climbing( see Ben Fabers previous posts). I even used a sick heel hook/ scum off of one of the top holds so I could make the clip that would prevent me from taking a collosal whipper(whats that 5ft?)

Sorry this post is all about me. I have a serious suggestion. lets change the topic/ relocate the posts to some other forum like off line?

By Avery Nelson
From Boulder, CO
Jan 30, 2008
Avery, 300' up Japanese Coulior

chrisp wrote:
I have heard that using tape, chalk - possibly shoes is aid climbing( see Ben Fabers previous posts).


Didn't Ben sell his soul to the suburbia mortgage company and give up climbing?

By Bob D'Antonio
From Superior, CO
Jan 30, 2008
Ute pass

Chrisp wrote: We have gone from trying to avoid the dipshits, guys that troll for dates, on this site as " climbing mentors" to dick measurements.


When boys are involve...little head logic always prevails.

By shackboy
Jan 30, 2008

"I havent seen Hanks but "

--but nothin', and don't you know nuthin', boy? Hank F-ckin' Caylor was a porn star, damnit! Regardless of what physics formulas and 25-cent-thesaurus words Ken and Tony pull out, they won't beat The Hank in a schlong-measuring contest. Word 'round the porno circuit campfire is, ol' Hank measures up to Chuck Norris.

By TIM DANLEY
From silt, co
Jan 30, 2008
Roman Headwall<br />

Heather Haynes wrote:
so if we say you're right,ken, will you quit lecturing us? naw...i agree with the dea that it's just good ol communication...as long as one person doesn't have to one-up everyone constantly!!! SMH---i like how you think, em me if you wanna climb and check on the free beer...i'll keep that in mind.:)


Free beer! I had to pay for mine, remember.

By Tim Stich
From Colorado Springs, Colorado
Jan 30, 2008
Looking down from Notchtop

Gigette Miller wrote:
And the MP girls can photochop the wieners....


I'll contact Gene Simmons about his friend with the plaster casts.

By Kateri Ahrendt
From Longmont, CO
Jan 30, 2008
Notchtop.  Photo by John Francis.

Gigette - that is too funny!

By Zed
From Gotham City
Jan 30, 2008

Tony Bubb wrote:
I have a broken wrist (Triquetral fracture and an avulsion on a ligament) and a dislocated ankle I got that in an international Ultimate tournament in Mexico the week before last. So the doctor isn't letting me get rough again for a few months.


If Tony's meat is half as big as his imagination, then Hank is in serious trouble of losing this contest.

By Bob D'Antonio
From Superior, CO
Jan 30, 2008
Ute pass

It's not the meat...it's the motion.

Doesn't matter how big your bat is...if you can't hit.


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