Battle of the states! Help!
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Hey there! |
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You sound like a CO family. Bellingham would be better if you want to get into bigger mountain ranges. CO would have better rock and ice, WA would be the perfect training ground for Denali or Patagonia aspirations |
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Nomadinthevertical wrote:I am currently on the East Coast where recreation is around but none of it is world classhahahahah good one |
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I'd vote SLC, religion won't be an issue as long as you live in the city. I'd stay away from Provo(south) and bountiful(north) though as they are def more religious based areas. The access to the outdoors is unbeatable(15-30min) from anywhere in town it seems, and the mtns are really good for recreation. |
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Bryan Manning wrote:I'd vote SLC, religion won't be an issue as long as you live in the city. I'd stay away from Provo(south) and bountiful(north) though as they are def more religious based areas. The access to the outdoors is unbeatable(15-30min) from anywhere in town it seems, and the mtns are really good for recreation. Edit: bonus is you get the southern deserts(Moab, canyon lands, Zion, etc) only a hop skip and jump away, vegas(red rock) is only a 6hr drive, and Jackson is only 4-5 the other wayI'd also vote SLC. In my opinion (and limited experience with Colorado), the access to the mountains is much quicker and easier in SLC. Also as was said, the religion won't be much of an issue if you stay in the Salt Lake valley. Head either north or south and it becomes much more prevalent, but within the valley there is good diversity. |
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I'd call living somewhere with religion at the forefront of the community way more diverse than say, Boulder, CO... |
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I've been to all three cities and I too live on the east coast.. |
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I live in Sandy, which is a suburb 15 minutes south of Salt Lake. I can be in downtown in 20 minutes, up Little Cottonwood (Alta, Snowbird, climbing, peak-bagging) in 10 minutes, and up Big Cottonwood (Brighton and Solitude and tons of climbing and train running) in 15. We have an 18 month-old and getting outside with her is a snap. |
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All three are going to be pretty great - not a bad problem to have. |
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Nomad...you can find plenty of Mormons in Utah who think their state is as diverse as any other. I think that is a more emotional, less rational response to the state being founded in its own religion. |
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What a bizarre post. |
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Not a parent yet, but regarding kids lifestyle and as a general community, Bellingham seemed awesome when I spent a summer there. The smaller size is part of that. Not good access to climbing, except for alpine snow/ice, but lots of trails and parks and community stuff for the kiddos. |
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Like Andrew pointed out, SLC just elected a lesbian mayor with no drama. Governor Herbert is also practically alone among Republican governors in supporting Syrian refugee resettlement. My wife works at a company of 600 people and is one of 2 Mormons there. |
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For a family, Denver or Bellingham will have less awkward "mormon-not-Mormon" thing that goes on in the schools, like when the lds kids all leave for a period and walk to the local lds ward. |
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Dow Williams wrote:Nomad...you can find plenty of Mormons in Utah who think their state is as diverse as any other. I think that is a more emotional, less rational response to the state being founded in its own religion.And like I said above....re: the emotional responses To be clear, no one has ever discriminated against me in Utah...but then I am not exposed to discrimination having to compete for a job title either....I think, as white Christians go, Mormons if anything are a cut above when it comes to that sort of thing...prob due to their own persecution in this country for adding a whole new weird twist to an already complex religion. Great folks to have as your neighbor watching over things...but religiously and politically monotone. Sure there are anecdotal exceptions. If working for the hospital, school district, any local or state based employer...your chances of advancement are much better if you go to church together and a high percentage of folks in this state go to church together, Salt Lake communities included. And it is the same church. I think we can thank the Donald in bringing to the forefront that there is more to diversity than skin color. OK, TX and UT all welcome plenty of Hispanic cheap labor, but they are not diverse states compared to WA and CO, from an ideologue, political, religious or cultural perspective. Nor are their capital cities when compared to each other...not by a long shot. Some folks don't care. Some do. I personally think the crime deal is a significant advantage, but maybe that is because I live 2 hrs from Vegas where my friends seem to get their stuff stolen all the time. I think the Salt Lake air pollution is also a huge negative, particularly for children, that if like my grand kids, would spend a ton of time outdoors. It seems to get glossed over, and Denver has similar issues, although not as bad. |
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To me, the bigger discriminatory war going on in every state, is related to guiding. Look at the way they require climbing guides to go through all that training, and pay money to obtain proper licensing, etc. What's up with that? This discriminates against those of us that have the gift, and are legendary bada$$ climbers, but don't have the means to obtain those official licenses and insurance. |
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Dow Williams wrote: Utah works perfect for my wife and I whose children are grown and are both professional athletes who spend more time on the road than we do at homeWow! THE Dow Williams posts on Mountain Project. He's right up there with Peter Croft for professional athletes who I look up to. You know how I know Croft is a professional athlete? He's listed on companies websites, climbs 5.13+, has countless first ascents, and was the leading climber of a generation of yosemite climbers. You know how I know Dow Williams is a professional athlete? He tells us. #justbecauseyoucanonlyclimb510doesn'tmeanyouresponsoredby510 |
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I have lived in Draper (SLC suburb) and now Provo. I'd really like to try Denver... SLC is really cool, but the inversions in the winter can be BAD. And they seem to get worse every year. |
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Austin Baird wrote: People probably discriminate against Dow Williams because he's a preening, narcissistic douchecanoe - not because he's not LDS.yikes. Adam Burch wrote:To me, the bigger discriminatory war going on in every state, is related to guiding. Look at the way they require climbing guides to go through all that training, and pay money to obtain proper licensing, etc. What's up with that? This discriminates against those of us that have the gift, and are legendary bada$$ climbers, but don't have the means to obtain those official licenses and insurance. I say forget that! It's the same thing as requiring a photo ID to vote, it's discriminatory! Nobody ever brings this up, though.man-stalker! |
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Religion is not the problem in N Utah, its the air. Commute from Park City or up one of the canyons and its not bad. |
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T Roper wrote: yikes. man-stalker!Haha I've never heard of T Roper, but his profile picture looks like that one movie with the fat alien and it runs around and then that's all. |