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Bat Cave 
Gotham City 
Left of the Bat Cave 
South Tower 
Super Hero Wall (Grey Wall) 
Trojan Wall (Right of Bat Cave) 
Tufa Wall 
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Bat Cave Area  

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Location: 32.93766, -107.24049 View Map  Incorrect?
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Administrators: Aaron Hobson, Jason Halladay, Anthony Stout, LeeAB, Marta Reece, Kristine Hoffman (sitewide)
Submitted By: LeeAB on Aug 26, 2009
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This is currently the main developed area above Caballo Lake. There are several areas here, Gotham City, The Bat Cave, Grey Wall? and Stuff Left of the Cave ETC.

Getting There 

Directions to Bat Cave Area (courtesy of Stone Age Climbing Gym, March News Letter)

I-25 south to Exit 59 Arrey Derry/ Caballo Percha State Parks
Turn right (southwest) at exit for 2.7 mi.
Left on W. Wagoneer Rd. for 1.1 mi.
Left on Sugar Sand Rd. for 0.7 mi.
Veer right onto dirt for 0.2 mi.
Left at Tee, drive under highway in single lane tunnel for 2.6 miles to dam
Continue for 3.7 mi and turn right onto a 4WD road
Continue for 0.4 mi. and veer left
Continue for 0.6 mi. and veer right
Turn left at Green Truck and drive to end for Bat Cave
Continue straight for 0.25 mi at Green Truck for Gotham City

Climbing Season

Weather station 4.1 miles from here

54 Total Routes

['4 Stars',4],['3 Stars',36],['2 Stars',11],['1 Star',0],['Bomb',0]

The Classics

Mountain Project's determination of some of the classic, most popular, highest rated routes for Bat Cave Area:
Harley Quinn Devotion   5.8- 5b 16 VI- 14 VS 4c     Sport, 1 pitch, 70'   Super Hero Wall (Grey Wall)
Two Face   5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c     Sport, 90'   Super Hero Wall (Grey Wall)
Crystal Mess   5.9- 5c 17 VI 16 HVS 4c     Sport, 1 pitch, 60'   Super Hero Wall (Grey Wall)
Blue Falcon   5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a     Sport, 40'   Super Hero Wall (Grey Wall)
Metallic Gray   5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a     Sport, 3 pitches, 190'   Super Hero Wall (Grey Wall)
I'll Be Your Poison Ivy   5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a     Sport, 1 pitch, 80'   Super Hero Wall (Grey Wall)
The Oracle   5.9+ 5c 17 VI 17 E1 5a     Sport, 1 pitch, 40'   Super Hero Wall (Grey Wall)
Scorpion Queen   5.9+ 5c 17 VI 17 E1 5a     Sport, 1 pitch, 40'   Super Hero Wall (Grey Wall)
Lucius   5.10a 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a     Sport, 1 pitch, 70'   Left of the Bat Cave
Stone of Sisyphus   5.10 6b 20 VII- 19 E2 5b     Sport, 100'   Trojan Wall (Right of Bat C...
Mega Man   5.10c 6b 20 VII 20 E2 5b     Sport, 1 pitch, 95'   Super Hero Wall (Grey Wall)
Bane   5.10d 6b+ 21 VII+ 21 E3 5b     Sport, 1 pitch, 90'   Left of the Bat Cave
Dynamic Duo   5.10d 6b+ 21 VII+ 21 E3 5b     Sport, 60'   Super Hero Wall (Grey Wall)
Mystique   5.11a 6c 22 VII+ 22 E3 5c     Sport, 1 pitch, 100'   Super Hero Wall (Grey Wall)
Silver Surfer   5.11a/b 6c 23 VIII- 23 E3 5c     Sport, 97'   Super Hero Wall (Grey Wall)
Super Hero   5.11 6c+ 23 VIII- 23 E4 5c     Sport, 2 pitches   Super Hero Wall (Grey Wall)
Trojan Horse   5.11+ 7a 24 VIII 24 E4 6a     Sport, 110'   Trojan Wall (Right of Bat C...
Fa-Lufa (aka Tufa Lufa)   5.11c/d 7a 24 VIII 25 E4 6a     Sport, 55'   Tufa Wall
The Bat   5.11c/d 7a 24 VIII 25 E4 6a     Sport, 95'   Super Hero Wall (Grey Wall)
New Beginning   5.12+ 7c 28 IX 27 E6 6b     Sport, 1 pitch, 100'   Left of the Bat Cave
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Featured Route For Bat Cave Area
Opening up another wall at the Bat Cave Area Tufa ...

Tufa Consequences 5.10 6b 20 VII- 19 E2 5b  NM : Truth or Consequences Area : ... : Tufa Wall
Climb the right side (black) tufas to some good holds at the top. Continue thru the steep stuff on fun jugs to a stance where the angle kicks back. A few interesting moves past the last few bolts takes you to the chains on the right wall. This is a real cool warm-up route. Steep, juggy and unique...[more]   Browse More Classics in NM

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Ed and Mike climbing at The Bat Cave Bella Dona/Gl...
Ed and Mike climbing at The Bat Cave Bella Dona/Gl...
Panorama photo showing the Bat Cave, Walls left of...
Panorama photo showing the Bat Cave, Walls left of...
The Bat Cave from the approach trail.
The Bat Cave from the approach trail.

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By LeeAB
From: ABQ, NM
Aug 26, 2009
Please note that this area is very new. The trails are not well established, take your time getting on the correct trail to limit erosion, it will also save you a bunch of time getting to the crag.

LOOSE ROCK The bolts maybe in but a lot of the route may or may not be cleaned yet due to the amount of work involved in bolting on lead. The goal of the people out bolting to this point has been to get to the top of the cliff so that other routes can go in top down, so many of the route have not had a good cleaning and have not been climbed on.

Also please respect the opportunity of those bolting the routes to climb them. There is plenty of rock that has not been touched, if you need to get an FA just do a little walking or go up one of the routes to access the top and put in another line.
By jbak
Aug 26, 2009
I been looking at that cave every time I drive by... for years... what's the approach time ?
By LeeAB
From: ABQ, NM
Aug 26, 2009
At this time it is hard to guess the true approach time as everyone that is walking in, every time is carrying a drill a bag of bolts and extra batteries. That said I think it is taking a little over 1/2 an hour from the end of the road and in the future when we are not hauling loads it will be a little under. This is for the Bat Cave itself, the Grey Wall will be a bit longer. I have not done the hike to Gotham City but Bryan said the approach was pretty short, it looks like it may be in the 15-20 minute range. If you can't make it to the end of the road you will need to add up to a mile of steep hiking on the 4x4 section.

With all the driving on dirt roads this is pretty out of the way to check out on your way by. It would be better to bring a drill and just commit to a day up there and help contribute to the cause.
By Devin C.
Oct 21, 2009
So is this land legal? I only ask because I don't carry a firearm and was hoping to go check this out this weekend, but if its that sketchy I think I'll pass until its a bit more traveled.
By lance hadfield
From: tijeras
Dec 25, 2009
I have gone down several times with no gun and it seems fine I think you should be very respectful of the mining claims and locals but I think it seems fine.
By tim naylor
Feb 1, 2010
I wanted to call vista verde gotham city but it got turned into vista verde, which is the name of the hiking trail/overlook below the crag. Great theme for NM. Lots of bats in the cracks and pockets. Siiick looking area.
By Devin C.
Mar 15, 2010
I finally got a chance to go out there a few times in the last month or so. Hats off to those developing this area!!! It is certainly an amazing setting with an unbelievable amount of rock and beautiful views. The cave itself is mind blowing and the potential for development on surrounding walls is astounding. Once again Hats Off!!!

As a side note, we have not had any encounters with miners (or anyone else for that matter) but we're still a little cautious about the locale. It is very apparent that there has, at one point, been fair amount of mining activity in this area.
By C Miller
Jan 14, 2013
Comments from a spirited discussion regarding the development of this area have been moved to this forum thread - mountainproject.com/v/bat-cave...
By djkyote
Jan 15, 2013
One weekend in February, 2011, we were exploring the canyon to the south east of where you park and encountered two miners bringing a load of dynamite to their claim. We were not aware that we were on their claim and were told to leave. They said that whole canyon is full of active claims and shouldn't be trespassed on. It did not take a lot of convincing because they each had assault rifles with scopes and a sidearm. We were told the bat cave is currently an inactive claim so it is fine to be on, but other exploring should be researched first.

The previous comments regarding carrying a firearm refer to my initial post that one may want to consider carrying in this area. That would be my reaction, but it is debatable whether this would be the best course of action for anyone or everyone. In any case, I was in no way trying to deter people from area, but to let people know who the other user group is and how they view the area.
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