Bad Rope Burn Belaying with Gri-Gri
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I was belaying my partner on the 4th pitch of "The Finger Of Fate" on the Titan this past weekend in Utah, when he took a pretty serious lead fall after a piece blew out of a pin scar, and I suffered some pretty bad rope burns on my left hand after not removing it from the rope quickly enough. Luckily my partner was fine, but we bailed off the route after that as he was naturally a bit shaken up, and my hand was pretty messed up at that point. |
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Oh man, sorry to hear about this. I'm sure a doctor will chime in with the best advice for caring for your wounds. |
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Hey Guys, |
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So I was the one who took the fall. |
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Hey, sorry to hear about the baby epic and injuries. Rope burns are awful. |
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Also, It wasn't the devices fault at all. He was keeping the part, that pulls up to cam the rope, from moving with his hand. When he finally let go of the device it activated and saved me. |
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Holy cow! You were 3 feet above the belay and fell 100??? That's insane! Good thing you were high up on the route. |
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Hey I'm not trying to bash him, he is a good guy. I'm just saying I almost died and how it happened. |
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as far as the burn goes... I have found the cheap samples of burn cream help tremendously (usually found in the cheesy first aid kit in your car or at work) - keep it covered and moist with the burn cream for at least the first couple days, then alternate letting it be exposed and covering it up with cream again. This helps it heal without developing the scab. |
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I had a pretty terrible road rash from a longboarding accident that covered most of my left shin. It took a few months for the scab to go away. I applied hydrogen peroxide and neosporin. Also, get some "new skin", either spray on or the water based patches. they worked very well. Lastly, if you don't want a nasty scar I recommend getting some vitamin e lotion. I ended up cutting open liquid capsule vitamin e pills and spreading that over the wound. It worked well and now the wound that covered at least a 1/2 ft^2 of skin is barely noticeable. |
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Phil, |
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Is this like "I just got a rack for Christmas" or am I just being cynical? If this is on the level, I am glad everyone walked away. |
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Hydrogen peroxide is great at killing off everything at the wound site on the first day, but to use it later may be counterproductive. It's such a strong oxidizer that it can scrape the surface clean of both bacteria and fragile new skin cells, prolonging the healing process. |
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Tim Crennen wrote: I'm going to be way more cautious with the backups I use and the people I climb with now. I'd say the moral of the story is, If you don't know how to use the device that is going to be the one link to life for your partner freaking say so.Harsh. I'm not sure if its good form to call out a guy on a public forum like this, particularly when the guy admitted his mistake. Granted, his mistake would have cost your ass, but then who climbs on a rope not tied off to anything several pitches off the ground. A little more seasoning might be in order. Just thank your stars that neither of you were seriously injured or killed due to the mistakes both of you made. |
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Honey works real well on burns. Bacteria cannot grow in it and it has vitamin e. |
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Like Evan said, what you're looking for is sold right now as Band-Aid "Active-flex" dressings. They're a bit hard to find, you may need to check Soopers, Safeway, Walgreens, Albertson's and others to find them. They also make special versions for fingers and toes. Try to keep it on until it basically falls off; it'll get loose when you shower but will reattach if you're careful and let it dry off a bit. They are really amazing and significantly reduce the healing time of any cut/burn/scrape/etc. Reduces the pain to a remarkable extent as well - almost artificial skin. "Compeed" is the name of the stuff that they're made of but not sold under that name in the U.S. Worst case, Band-Aid blister block pads are made of the same stuff, just a bit thicker. |
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Hey, I'd say you'd best off not put hydrogen peroxide on much after the initial injury. It can retard healing. The old school thought was to use silver sulfadene. It's expensive. It is now felt to slow healing. These days, wounds of 2nd degree burns (blisters but you still can feel) are thought best to use antibiotic ointment. Not only to retard bacterial growth but also to keep the skin moist with the petroleum base. 2nd degree burns vary in depth and length to healing. Note, often with deep 2nd degree burns you can lose flexibility in the tissue as the healing involves fibroblasts (non-stretchy). So, try to keep th are moving and stretched somewhat. Note, once burned, the tissue is significantly more prone to thermal injuries (either cold or warm) until fully healed (up to 1 year). |
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Greg German wrote:Hydrogen peroxide is great at killing off everything at the wound site on the first day, but to use it later may be counterproductive. It's such a strong oxidizer that it can scrape the surface clean of both bacteria and fragile new skin cells, prolonging the healing process. [note: I am not a doctor and I don't play one on TV] This is very good advice. Hydrogen Peroxide is not good for wounds...especially burns. Hospitals don't use it any more because it actually slows the healing process. Watch it very closely, burns get infected easily and the infections spread quickly. If the redness around the wound start's to spread, especially if that extended redness is hot to the touch go see your doctor immediatly. It could be very serious. Keep it clean using mild soap. Tim....I know what you meant. Don't let the intertards bug you. Sorry this happened, sounds like you both learned some things. josh |
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What happened to the "brake hand"? |
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Thanks a ton for the suggestions everyone. Good stuff to know. Think I should be healed up fine in few weeks. Brake hand is fine. Honestly still trying to digest exactly what happened, the old clique of "it all happened so quick" definitely apply here. The Fishers are indeed the real deal and it was a humbling experience to respect chossy rock and my experience. Been climbing for some time and consider myself a very safe climber, just f***** up I guess, such is life, luckily we are both fine and it was a learning experience. Naturally I feel pretty damn stupid and embarrassed for making such a "newbie" error, but it was just a combination of circumstances. Will try some of the stuff you guys recommended and hopefully will be out pullin again soon. |
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A useful video put out by Petzl... the "new method" was new to me! I never thought about reaching across with the thumb from my brake hand to hold the cam down. |