By Buff Johnson
Jul 17, 2012
| Holy Crap, this is probably the best of Boulder inner children of the corn self-implosion topic we've ever witnessed!
Dead African babies are rising to the zombie apocalypse as we speak....
THANK YOU FOR THE "HORROR"!!! | 
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By Princess Mia
From Vail
Jul 17, 2012
| Buff Johnson wrote: THANK YOU FOR THE "HORROR"!!!
+1
LMFAO |
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By Buff Johnson
Jul 17, 2012
| Apparently so.
Just remember rules #1, #28, and #8, and maybe also #2 and #6 |
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By Unassigned User
Jul 17, 2012
| No worries Buff, I got a rule list up to #344. Sometimes I break them. Breaking rules gives me a warm fuzzy feeling inside, like I swallowed a small kitten. |
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By Buff Johnson
Jul 17, 2012
| (Zombieland Rules are now in effect until further notice) |
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By Unassigned User
Jul 17, 2012
| Doh! So much fail! I missed the Zombieland reference. Too eager to make my own witty comment. So if Elena pops up is double tap the right strategy? |
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By ABB
Jul 17, 2012
| Hey folks, pardon the interruption to the stoning but before you crucify Kevin Daniels/FIXE USA please be considerate enough to thank him for his generous support of us climbers via the two prolific anchor-replacement organizations in the country, The American Safe Climbing Association (ASCA) and Climbing Magazine’s Anchor Replacement Initiative (ARI). Rhetorical question: what percent of climbers have donated, habitually or ever, to either? Stainless ain’t cheap but, oh boy, isn’t it pretty, especially when you’re flyin’ past it? |
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By NYClimber
From Schenectady, NY
Jul 17, 2012
| Sorry Delta Bravo...I would buy Fixe's wares if they were selling cams for $25 each. Fuck it...I'll pay full retail before I succumb to that BS. I make way to much $ to fuck around with someone over $25! Hell...most guys blow that on 4 meals at Burger King! LOL. |
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By NYClimber
From Schenectady, NY
Jul 17, 2012
| Awww Kenny...do we have to bring animal rights into this debate as well? |
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By Mark E Dixon
From Boulder, CO
Jul 17, 2012
| Kevin's email strikes me as blunt but not rude. Apparently a lot of folks need their bad news sugar coated.
I agree with Delta Bravo, I'm going to buy the best gear at the best price. I don't need a smiley face on the receipt.
Mark |
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By J. Albers
From Colorado
Jul 17, 2012
| ABB wrote: Hey folks, pardon the interruption to the stoning but before you crucify Kevin Daniels/FIXE USA please be considerate enough to thank him for his generous support of us climbers via the two prolific anchor-replacement organizations in the country, The American Safe Climbing Association (ASCA) and Climbing Magazine’s Anchor Replacement Initiative (ARI). Rhetorical question: what percent of climbers have donated, habitually or ever, to either? Stainless ain’t cheap but, oh boy, isn’t it pretty, especially when you’re flyin’ past it?
Habitually to the ASCA. And yeah, SS sure is purdy, so thanks Kevin. Now, if we could only get Kevin to quit selling plated hardware, then we would all be better off!! Probably even the poor ol' OP. |
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By Kenny Thompson
From woodfords, california
Jul 17, 2012
| What's wrong with plated hardware? |
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By Mike Lane
From Centennial, CO
Jul 17, 2012
| I have inspected my plated gear placed in '88 and it is fine. Plus, nothing shines as bright as a fresh line of non-painted plated hangers when the sun hits. its like a set of runway beacons you can see a mile away. Perfect for a Rock Nazi DB such as myself.
Full disclosure, I get a bag of 100 Fixe plated hangers on about a every-other year basis. And I always wait Kevin out until he puts them on sale for under $2 per unit. |
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By Kenny Thompson
From woodfords, california
Jul 17, 2012
| Yeah, no shit I've pulled plated 5 piece rawls I placed in the early nineties with ss hangers and they are bomber right down the threads. Not to say that would be the case in all areas but I would say in most cases they are fine and probably after 20 years bolts should be replaced no matter what they are. |
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By s.price
From PS,CO
Jul 17, 2012
| Never had a problem with Fixe. All goodness. |
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By Jake Jones
From The Eastern Flatlands
Jul 17, 2012
| TheBirdman wrote: Yes you can Mary! So let me get this straight Jake, you're offended by the racial implications of a white wine comment but chauvinism is perfectly acceptable in your view (see quote from another thread below)? Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Jake Jones: Aeryn wrote: "So my "Totally Mindless Chalk Use" post has led me to an additional question... what climbing etiquette should be abided by? For me, climbing etiquette involves: 1. Climbing thoughtfully. That covers a lot... but with respect to chalk (as that is what prompted this post), use chalk sparingly and only when necessary, don't leave handprints or other doodles, and do what you can to ensure you are not dropping chalk bits behind you; 2. If you are camping at large, don't camp next to someone (without their consent) just because it is a choice spot... some folks just want to be left alone; 3. If you are at a crag and there are only two other people there, don't set your anchor on top of theirs and climb the routes they are on (again, without their consent)... climb something in close proximity; 4. Pick up after yourself. "Leave no trace" is a damn good rule to live by. Also, I wholeheartedly encourage everyone to pick up the trash others have left behind; 5. Don't climb up someone's ass... not literally (again, if you have consent, go for it), but when on crowded routes be patient; 6. Keep quiet unless circumstances indicate otherwise. Lots of us like to get lost in the solitude of the rock... respect that and don't be rowdy unless rowdy is called for; 7. Don't put cigs out on the rock. It leaves a mark that is kinda ugly (imho); 8. If you add webbing, etc. to an anchor, be conscientious of what's left behind. If you add new, consider cutting and carrying away the oldest piece.... That's all I can think of at the moment, but I'm certainly interested in others' ideas. Though I rarely climb with others around, might be I've been pissing a whole lot of folks off without even realizing it..." What are you wearing? Furthermore, Scott McMahon said: I can't resist this...haha!!! Great Stuff! MaryR does not have any contributions that have been rated Great or Useful. Maybe Mary is just out warming up on climbs 2 number grades above your project instead of racking up great comments on MP, Scott. Consider this a gentle reminder of Rule #1. And now back to your regularly scheduled programming of a pissing contest of completely irrelevant opinions regarding customer service.
Allow me to clarify. It was a joke. I do that a lot. Some people have noticed. Some have not. If you were offended by me joking with someone that takes themselves too seriously, I apologize. It's good to see that chivalry isn't dead. This was also a joke. |
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By Henry Braun
Jul 17, 2012
| mapeze wrote: Kevin, just to clarify: Totem is not receiving subsidies. We get the capital needed to start with the manufacturing and commercialization of Totem Cams from various sources: - Our pocket. - Venture capital investment group. This group is government dependent. They invest on our project with a certain conditions that can be or not be profitable for them. The time will say. - Three loans guaranteed by our patent. We are now paying back the loans and we will need to pay to the venture capital investment group an amount fixed by the conditions we firmed. We sell our products in US at a given price to compete with another brands. Our price is not lower than our competitors price excepting Fixe, and in the case of Basic Cams the price is the same as Aliens price when they were made by CCH. And to be clear: our first goal is to get a job where we will be happy, trying to improve climbing gear. Many times is not easy nor comfortable. I hope I earn your respect.
Now THIS is how you conduct yourself when representing your business. The guys at Totem make an equivalent product for a better price and at the same time manage to avoid being egotistical cockbags on the internet. Plus, totem cams are probably the biggest innovation to hit the market in several years...and when people on MP wonder how they work, mapeze goes and posts up a document on the Totem website explaining it all. Total class act on all levels.
Mapeze, will you ever be releasing basic cams in all the original alien sizes? While you're at it, can you send me a couple dozen totem cams for free? ;) Just kidding, but seriously...I want them so bad. |
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By Unassigned User
Jul 18, 2012
| Wait jake jones jokes? What? Dude I thought you were serious all this time. |
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By Daryl Allan
From Sierra Vista, AZ
Jul 18, 2012
| Horse not dead quite yet.. [drags carcass over for closer inspection]
So this entire thing is because of this??
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From: Kevin Daniels @ Fixe Hardware
To: Me
No,
Sorry but I cant honor that or I will be honoring something every darn day.
kevin
THAT is offensive?? Even if i had never dealt with Kevin/Fixe before, if that was the first email I had ever received from him, I think I would have to force myself to find that offensive, rude, or anything less than someone treating me like a person and not insulting me by putting me on some superficial pedestal just to cuddle and pamper me.
Unreal.. "move along"
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By NC Rock Climber
From The Oven, AKA Phoenix
Jul 18, 2012
| Daryl Allan wrote: Horse not dead quite yet.. [drags carcass over for closer inspection] So this entire thing is because of this?? ...
FWIW, my opinion was that the OP was making a mountain out of a mole-hill. The original reply from Fixe was "C-" customers service, but nothing "horrific." It was Fixe's subsequent bashing on Totem and their other comments in that post that I found very unprofessional. We can argue all day long about what is rude and what constitutes good customer service. I believe that bashing your competition and making questionable accusations against them in a public forum sucks. That is what makes me see Fixe in a very unfavorable light. |
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By Kenan
Jul 18, 2012
| Daryl Allan wrote: So this entire thing is because of this?? ---------------------- From: Kevin Daniels @ Fixe Hardware To: Me No, Sorry but I cant honor that or I will be honoring something every darn day. kevin
No, it wasn't just that. Did you read the post? It was his subsequent message that I felt was over-the-top. Then his posts on the forum didn't seem to help his cause.
It was the follow-up posts by the peanut gallery that made a mountain out of a mole hill, with several people making personal attacks and judgments against both me and Kevin. But that's the way of the Internet forum.
This started (and should have ended) as a thread about my experience with his customer service (or lack thereof). Yes, I felt that his interaction with me constituted horrific customer service. Some people disagree, and that's fine. Did I claim that it was a horrific world event? Of course not. Does it mean that he doesn't contribute to his community or is an evil person? Of course not. Does it even f'ing matter? ... Only in this context: If you care about getting good customer service and you feel like his wasn't, then don't buy from him. If you don't care about customer service or if you feel like his was a shining example of it, then buy from him.
It's a gear review forum. I posted my experience about a gear purchase.
What's done is done. Let the dead horse be dead. |
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