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Baby Apes 

5.12c

   
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Type: Trad, 1 pitch, 50 feet
Consensus: 5.12c [details]
FA: (TR) John Bachar, March, 1980 FL: Hidetaka Suzuki, 1982 (?)
Submitted By: C Miller on Nov 29, 2002

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Tony Yaniro on Baby Apes, 1981.
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Classic line on the left side of the east face that climbs past the left side of a prominent roof via a thin crack. Seldom done and even less seldom led, this tenuous and powerful line has been soloed!


Protection 

pro to 1.5", anchors or TR



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Comments displayed oldest to newestSkip Ahead to the Most Recent Dated Mar 28, 2010
By Randy
Jan 14, 2003
rating: 5.12c

Though you can now use the first bolt on Rastafarian for protection on the intial crux, leading this route is extremely difficult as hanging out and placing gear (usually in the finger pockets you are going to use) is very strenuous. As a lead, it would be 12d or so. Powerful moves.

Uses first bolt of Rastafarian to protect swing and moves into crack.

By RTM
Jan 21, 2003
rating: 5.12c

Does the original line go left onto the face before the roof, or does it traverse in from the jugs above the lip of the roof (by the bolt)?

thanks

By C Miller
Administrator
Jan 21, 2003

Original line? Traverse left above the lip ala Bearded Cabbage.

By RTM
Jan 22, 2003
rating: 5.12c

Heh! After I spent half the day trying to send it from the direct start, which to me seems like the true line. Does the direct variation get the same rating? Going this way, one doesn't even have the option of clipping the bolt:).

BTW - how did Coz, or whoever, get away with putting a bolt on an existing (semi-classic) route. Especially a bachar route???

By Randy
Jan 22, 2003
rating: 5.12c

The route has always gone across the traverse. How hard is the direct start??; it must be harder. No one seems to care that the first bolt on Rastafarian can be used if you want to lead Baby Apes. It hardly makes the route any easier to protect (bomber cam here anyway), and 99% of people TR it anyway.

By Anonymous Coward
Mar 24, 2005

can someone please give move by move beta starting with the "ape" move ending at the horizontal jugs near the top...how do you control the barndoor move? the pocket sequences? hand and foot placements...thanks

By C Miller
Administrator
Mar 24, 2005

Hey AC - shall we just climb the route for you too? If you need that much beta you're in over your head.

By Randy
Mar 26, 2005
rating: 5.12c

Since chris and others seem reluctant to give beta, here it is:

Simply grab the next holds and move on by, until you reach the top.

By Adam Stackhouse
Administrator
Feb 13, 2008
rating: 5.12c

This along with the Moonbeam Crack to the left was soloed by Michael Reardon.

By Drewsky
Dec 19, 2008

The following thread should be entertaining to those familiar with the route:

www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=367235&msg=3>>>

The first two pictures of the route show me on my first and second attempts, falling off and redpointing, respectively.

The third picture of the route speaks for itself!

If leading the route, the bolt or cam essentially protects the entire crux. The gear I am falling on in the picture was not expected to hold a fall (it did) and it indeed blocked vital holds. What a great route! Falling off the end of the crux on lead onto the bolt is a bit of a "street sweeper".

By peachy spohn
Mar 28, 2010

I led this the other day. After the bolt I placed a #9 offset nut in the right hand slot used to reach the final horizontal. I felt the nut made the move harder, but it was a solid placement. A fun route.