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By danpierce
From Cleveland, OH
May 1, 2008

I am going to be moving from Cleveland, Ohio to Tucson this upcoming August. I will be attending classes at UofA. Any spare time I find I want to be dedicated to climbing. However, I dont know much about the scene in this location. Any advice for indoor/outdoor climbing, climbing locations, finding climbing partners, and local hangouts would be greatly appreciated!

Also, I dont have a place to live yet. Any suggestions for apartment complexes or communities to look into??

By dancohen
From Tucson, AZ
May 1, 2008

Tucson is a great city for being a climber. You shouldn't have any trouble finding partners.
As far as what to climb, there is tons of year-round trad and sport on Mt. Lemmon. The guidebook to have is Squeezing the Lemmon II. There is plenty of route development going on so you can supplement with mp.
Cochise Stronghold is a gem. It has mostly multi-pitch trad routes on beautiful granite. There are bolted routes but they are not 'sport' routes.
Many locals climb at Rocks 'n Ropes. It's the only rock gym in Tucson and you will be able to hook up with climbers there.
Fourth ave and Congress area are just southwest of campus. There are lots of bars and good times to be had down there.
I'm a student too and I live right next to campus. Considering the amount of time I spend on campus it makes sense to live as close as possible. There are plenty of places to live right around campus. If you want roommates look in the classifieds on dailywildcat.com. The place I live in right now (for 2 more weeks) is a newly renovated studio. My landlord is way cool and looking for a tenant for the fall. Let me know if you want more info.
Hope all that helps
-Dan

By Eric D
May 1, 2008
Me on the East Ridge of Wolf's Head, Wind River Range

Dan,

I posted the exact same thing online before moving here 3 years ago. Don't worry, there is an ass-load of sport and trad around Tucson, though very little, and very poor, bouldering. As long as you aren't only willing to boulder, there is a lifetime of quality climbing in the area.

Rocks and Ropes is definitely the place to meet partners.

By chrispy
May 2, 2008

Eric D wrote:
though very little, and very poor, bouldering.


True,there is an "but-load" of roped climbing here, I would also say that there IS a lot of bouldering in the area. It seems like there isn't very much since there are very few areas with a high concentration of bp's, it's quite spread out. A pocket of boulders here and a field of rock there with gems inside. So you'll have to do a lot of walking or driving to get in a really full day of pebble-wrestling. At least you can change elevation to go all year.
The quality of the bouldering, (and roped stuff) for that matter can be variable. I'm not sure if I'd go as far as to say "very poor" since that can be a matter of style and taste. The vast majority of the problems wouldn't even register in most other established climbing areas. There are a few "classics" around though. Keep in mind that bouldering is not my thing.
A more general note about how I feel about Tucson climbing: yes, there is a lot of climbing here. Yes, there is a lot of bolt-clipping to be had. Ratings can vary greatly depending on the era and who put it up. Yes, there is a lot of "trad" climbing here, but there are extremely few pure crack climbs (my fav). Mostly gear protected face climbs with the occasional hand jam or finger lock if you really want to use them. Rock quality can run the gamut from bulletproof to vertical gravel. You'll occasionally find routes that are glued just to keep them from falling apart.
Many people will go on and on about how incredible the climbing is here and it makes me wonder if they've climbed much in other places. I think what they are seeing is the quantity of the climbing and not the quality. Many of the three star routes here would be just another route in other places. Don't get me wrong, there are some really awesome lines to be had. Plus you can climb all year by changing elevation.
All in all it's hard to complain too much when you can be out climbing on the real stuff in as little as a half hour from the house.

By Joseph Stover
May 2, 2008

The gym here is pretty nice too. Easily bikable form campus during the day.

As far as living, I suggest Sam Hughes area, there are plenty of duplexes and guest houses. But any of the neighborhoods around campus are fine if you like to bike or walk to school. There is a neighborhood a little further west, "dunbar springs", I think its called which has some houses with cool guest houses. And of course there are plenty of apartment buildings scattered about. What I did is got and apartment for a year until I figured out where I wanted to live and then got into a duplex. Check the Daily Wildcat student newspaper. I think they have online listings as well.

Climbing on Mt Lemmon is awesome. It may take a while to get used to the crimpy sticky granite stuff, depending on what you are used to. I was used to smooth TX limestone and having only a few areas to climb, but with lots of routes close to each other and flat belays. here there and many "smaller" crags and the climbing varies greatly from lower angle face to slightly overhung. On harder stuff(5.10/11) you will almost always have to use a crimp or two. On 5.9 and below, it is usually either lower angle and balancey or straight up with big holds.

There is good bouldering, but like the previous posts say, not very concentrated.

If you don't climb trad, you should try to get into it here. It will greatly expand your climbing choices and quality of experience.

If you are referring to local hangouts in general and not just for climbers, there is 4th avenue and university with many restaurants, bars, and coffee shops, usually with free wireless internet. 4th avenue is usually pretty lively, but downtown is not too active currently. Club Congress is a traditional hangout as well(basically at the end of 4th ave in a manner of speaking).

hope this helps!

By Brent Silvester
May 4, 2008
a good hair cut goes a long way.<br />Dress For Success!

As a relatively new person to Tucson, I'll throw my 2 cents in. Coming from the mid-west (Chicago land area), any amount of local rock was better than what I had, quality or not. That said, I hope you don't mind walking. There are a few OVERRUN roadside areas, so if you don't like crowds, you're gonna have to do some exploring. The rock varies from great to shit, as do the climbs. I wouldn't exactly call myself a trad climber yet, but this has been an enjoyable place to learn the craft. Ratings are generally soft, but varies greatly as chrispy mentioned. As far as bouldering in Tucson, I would actually say it is pretty damn good. If you hear people saying it's not, well they aren't looking hard enough. I was on a bouldering kick, training for Jewel Theif (a very, very fun V10), and was able to keep myself busy for over a month, climbing 3 times a week just bouldering. I would spend a day at Jewel Theif, rip my tips open, and go find friendlier routs while they healed. You just have to walk a bit, and sometimes around vegetation that wants nothing more than to kill you. Once I got Jewel Theif, I moved on to other projects, but there is still lots more out there. So, happy exploring.

As far as the gym goes, it's a gym. For me, coming from the mid-west, the last thing I want to do is go inside to climb. And from where I live, it only takes me 15 minutes more to get to the upper 1/3 of the mountain. Tucson is a great place to be a climber. I love the fact that I can climb through out the week OUTSIDE. And remember, with a car, there are loads of great climbing areas within a few hours of Tucson.

By Paul Davidson
May 5, 2008

Very poor bouldering ?

Bob Murray lived in Tucson for 4-5 years.
I know for a fact there's a lot more out there than one would think...

Is it a bouldering mecca, nope.
Is there sufficient stuff, perhaps.

And if you're willing to drive and explore, there's a lot within 2 hours.

By todd w
May 5, 2008

hey man,

i just moved here from Ohio myself. i sent you a pm.

todd

By danpierce
From Cleveland, OH
May 6, 2008

Thanks to everyone for all of your input. it seems as though the quality of the climbing is debatable, as always. But when you come from no climbing to any climbing, it is always an upgrade. and maybe i say this because its all i know... but i would not be as strong of a climber as i am without the help of my gym. so i am sure i will be making some appearances to pull on some plastic. when the time gets closer i will be sure to throw out another post to rally some troops for some climbing trips. i look forward to meeting a lot of you come the end of summer.

By Joseph Stover
May 7, 2008

Oh the quality of the climbing is not debatable! :)

By tbrain
From Tucson, AZ
May 7, 2008
Following on Yellow Spur.  Photo by Geir Hundal.

Paul Davidson wrote:
Very poor bouldering ? Bob Murray lived in Tucson for 4-5 years. I know for a fact there's a lot more out there than one would think...


Here's the (free) link to Tyler McMillen's guidebook, "Tucson Bouldering." Thanks to Tyler for making it available via the web and, graciously, at no cost:

http://math.fullerton.edu/tmcmillen/TucsonBouldering.pdf

By Charles Vernon
From I'm in transition right now
May 7, 2008
Charles Vernon

Dan--I sent you a message. I'm also going to be moving to Tucson in August for school, and I'll be looking for partners as well. Hoping to climb as much as time allows!

Charles


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