Have led this route joshf?? Remember, grasshopper, one must always lead a route before one comments on it. Feel free to skip that second bolt when your on the sharp end, my friend.
I don't believe there will be a bolt removal thread for that 2nd bolt. It's pretty obvious that the Law's of Gravity would not be in a person's favor if they slipped here, besides it look's like the crux to me.I didn't lead this route yet or know if I will ever be able to as some old injuries are really sneaking up on me. Those that do the least seem to complain the most. It's a free Country after all.
I'm not for removing the bolts, that generally seems like a worse idea than leaving it.
By Erik Murdock From: Tucson, Arizona Apr 10, 2008
Joshf - Chill the f%#k out. Forget about the bolts. It is standard to have some form of protection (on trad or sport) so that you won't hit the ground at the crux. This photo is a bit misleading and foreshortened. But who is that cool dude cranking the rads in the photo???? I think his ego makes the bolts look closer than they really are.
Again, not for removing the bolts just commenting on how close they look...I was not intending to start a removal thread it was more a reference to the changing ways of people putting up new routes.
Josh it makes sense to have the bolts closer together right off the deck on routes that have low cruxes. Higher up you can spread them out. These guys know what they are doing. Just observe and learn.
The Viking on the opening crux moves. Stick clip the first bolt or have good spotters. Note the angle of the wall in the background. Red Dwarf 5.12 trad and Viking Soared 5.11 trad climb.