Warden 

Holds are pretty slick below the second bolt. Bear left after clipping the third bolt for the best holds. First ascent was Ben Burnam and Mark Brown in late 2000.

There is only one set of anchors on this route.

Fun short route.The big flakey block is real positive, but would be a disaster if it ever comes off. Nice variety on this route considering how short it is.

The second set of anchors to the right is some mystery route.

As it says in the description this climb has some hollow flakes you have to clip from. The right hand set of anchors should never be used as the rock they are in may come out.

The route will be fun unless/until it falls down... choss aside, it's steep and different for Lemmon.

I have it on good record that the right-hand anchors belong to a 5.10 TR, and I think it's going to be bolted (not by me) as a sport lead.

Before you clip into and lower or top-rope from the anchors to the right look at what they are drilled into. From above it looks like a boulder that is fractured all the way around. Also there is nothing under this rock to support it. I would rather see the route 3 feet shorter and have sound anchors.

Hey Hillary, if you know the folks that are planning on putting this route up ask them why they put the anchors 3 inches apart (Minimum should be 6 or more) and more importantly in a hollow block that I could pry off with a crowbar? If they are inexperienced (as it seems) have them call me I would be happy to give them some basics about bolting. In fact if they are really in to FAs I can set them up with new routes to do. My number is in the guidebook under corrections.

What makes this climb rated R? Are the rocks shaped like boobies?

Hmm, what would that mean an X-rated climb's holds were shaped like?

The reason is the large questionable-looking block about halfway up. It's only a matter of time before someone yards it off onto their belayer. That said, it's been there for years without incident... Still, I'd stand back if I were belaying.

that flake is dangerous, i really didn't want to pull on it but in the end i had to. chopping it might ruin the route but it also might prevent a serious accident in the not-too-distant future. plus having to pull on a massive hollow flake kind of ruins the route to begin with.

hell without the flake it might just make a decent 9+.

totally choss. the flake in the middle is going to come off sometime, the route is 25 feet long and the anchors are not in good rock. rockfall potential and bad anchor rock negates the attractive steepness of this climb.

i've changed my mind. the flake isn't as dangerous as i had thought at first, and it's not often that you find an overhung 5.7 on mount lemmon. i actually think this is a good, fun climb for beginners; the beginners i took here last weekend seemed to love it.

I led this yesterday and stopped to pause at the flake, my belayer Adam Block took some steps back after we had discussed it might not be so strong. After I decided that I would try it I first grabbed it and weighted it , I'm about 170 and after I was over it and standing on it I felt better about it. I'm new to Lemmon ethics but I say leave it and make sure people know to watch it like others have said. For what it's worth I wouldn't do jumping jacks on it though (:

The plus on this is that there is a waist high rock a few steps back to stand behind so you have something to brace yourself on to avoid a lead fall from a hold breaking off pulling you into the path of the rock. Nice lead Derek!